Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life: Can They See Eye To Eye?

Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life: Can They See Eye To Eye?


Hey everyone, thank you for joining us for another middle-ground episode. Be sure to stick around after the episode because we’re going to talk about how we make middle ground and also what we’ve learned from them. Enjoy. In all our conversations so far, nobody has brought up the rights of the fetus person. Doesn’t she have the right… the choice to live? ~But with that being said, that’s a cluster of cells that could not, a lot of the time, exist outside of a woman’s world. ~Hi, my name is Jolene, I am a college student and I’m pro-life. ~Hello everyone. My name is Timmerie and I’m pro-life, and I talk about these issues on my radio show “Trending with Timmerie”. ~I’m Jason. I’m a Youtuber called “Pastor Jason Answers”. So, yes, I’m a Christian pastor. ~My name is Liz, I work in tech, and I am pro-choice. ~My name is Kimberly. I am a college student and I am pro-choice. ~Hey guys, I’m Natalie. I’m a poet teaching artist and mental health advocate, and I am pro-choice. PROMPT: I know someone who’s had an abortion. ~I guess I’ll go first. I have had two myself. The first one, I was not emotionally stable. I was not financially stable. I was about to get evicted from where I was living and my family wouldn’t- you know, The the list goes on and on. I was on drugs, it wasn’t something that I would be able to do nor I wanted to do. And recently, I had a miscarriage in which, because it was incomplete, I had to go in for a DNC which is instant abortion procedure. And at this point in my life, I want to have kids and so, you know, that experience as well was something that was… equally as difficult for me as the first one that I had to go through voluntarily ~I’m so sorry you went through that experience. ~Church supports WP CC which is an organization that helps women during pregnancy after pregnancy and post abortion counselling. More than the people that I’ve met there, my mom almost had an abortion because of me. She doesn’t tell me the whole story because she doesn’t like talk about it, but her life was in danger and everybody was saying “just abort the baby,” which is totally legitimate if the woman’s life is in danger, I believe. But I’m actually glad that uh, she didn’t abort me but had the baby anyway. ~I was 18 when I got my first abortion and at that time I was living with my grandmother. They were very conservative-raised as Catholic Christians. They would probably kick me out of the house if they were to find out I was pregnant. I was still you know, fresh out of high school, did not have you know, the monetary needs to raise a child and no place to live. So… yeah. ~I have had both friends and extended family members who’ve had abortions, and I’m sure the two of you can speak to this, it’s a decision that you carry with you, the rest of your life. and I have seen people two years later and I’ve seen people thirty years later still struggling with the aftermath of abortion And that’s why I think us women deserve so much more than abortion I know several people who have been like on the line like wanting to but I don’t know anyone who actually Went through with the process I have two little brothers and when my mom was pregnant with the youngest one He was not planned and he was I mean, I guess you could say at that time He was an unwanted child throughout her pregnancy She just was thinking of how much of burden this could be if my mom did not believe that life begins at conception Then she probably would have gotten an abortion. But my baby brother. Well now he’s older He has impacted every single one of our lives in such a positive way that I just could not imagine him not being on this planet and it really made me think that When life is born like life is beautiful and life is so much more beautiful than there not being any life at all I think that’s sometimes true There’s so many other factors People who don’t have all of those things right who don’t have a family who don’t maybe have a partner who don’t have stable housing Is that going to be the right circumstance for that child? Is that gonna be more damaging? thinking about the quality of the life that you can provide because you are the caretaker of that being and if you are not in a position to do that that is the same as child abuse to me and as sad as that is because you know That’s something we can’t ignore. I still believe that that is a life and it is just as valuable as someone who May be growing up in a rich family and like have everything and have all these resources I believe both those lives are equally valuable. See I was just going to say under what you’re seeing It sounds like quality of life is what determines whether or not someone should live it and in that case It’s the poor people who are preyed upon to have Abortions and it’s support people who then spend years struggling with post-abortion syndrome as well And so what with cutting off access to abortion what what? Solution is that going to provide to those low-income individuals people who may not be able to have access to health care? There are crisis pregnancy centers across the nation waiting with the financial means to help women Who are facing crisis pregnancy. The reality is is when people choose to have their children and they ask for help Let’s say family cuts them off. There are other people willing to give help if we ask have you had to receive Kind of benefits before? no, but I’ve worked with hundreds upon hundreds of women who have. So based on my own experience You know, I’m someone who previously granted I don’t have children, but I would had previously had to be on food stamps I previously have received Unemployment benefits pretty much anything that you can name there was a point in my life where I had to be able to get that kind of assistance and It’s not as much money as you think and a lot of these individuals are still struggling to be able to Provide for not only their baby but themselves and I think it’s really unfair to Put a woman and you know, this this now baby in that situation against their own you know against their own will Men should not be a part of the conversation It’s not a part of a man’s body It’s not a life that they are personally bringing into the world And I don’t think that they should be the end-all be-all to make that choice Well, I’m the only guy here and sometimes even before I speak a word I feel judged that you have no say because it’s not your body, but I have two beautiful kids What if my wife didn’t want kids what if she had an abortion without my say without my advice doesn’t this affect my life too A lot. I actually think everyone has to be a part of every conversation Now, I don’t think men should be the dominant voice in the conversation at all But I do think that everybody has to work together to create solutions to really large issues And so yeah I think men absolutely have to be a part of it but not the dominant voice the realities it takes two to tango, right? I think we can all agree on that and the chromosomes come from both the mother and the father that baby Was a part of the father as well. I mean, I I guess I didn’t necessarily want to say that men absolutely shouldn’t be a part of the Conversation where I see it is a lot of the individuals who are trying to make these laws right now are men well I think that there still needs to be a conversation between a couple I don’t think that it’s fair for anybody other than the woman having to go through this Make that final decision in what she wants to do with her body. As a guy I feel like my My statements are more opinions or suggestions that it doesn’t really matter Thank you for your input But we really need to make the decision based on what the woman feels and I feel like I’m more of a second-rate Citizen compared to the woman who has to make the real decision. Yeah I mean, I find that that’s like the one place men feel that way versus women There’s very many instances in our lives where we don’t get the first say and we don’t get the last say either we’re Asking people permission to do things with ourselves And I think for me that’s what’s really problematic when it wasn’t legal people still got abortions and they just died in alleys and so is that What we’re okay with as a society because people don’t have access and don’t have choices. I’m not okay with that. I Feel as if my rights are in danger Some of these laws are allowing for non-medical physicians to perform abortions and operate without a medical license So my right to good quality health care is being diminished But also my right as you know one day wanting to be a parent parental notification Those laws are being swept away and so parents who love their children More than the facility workers or at least should right They should be able to talk to their child before they make such a serious decision and the parents rights are going away At the end of the day, that’s not their choice to make that’s not their body and so I I get I guess I just I get where you’re Coming from from like an emotional standpoint but I believe that an abortion is a medical procedure and I don’t think that anybody else should really be involved Other than the person that’s having it for me I want women to have the right to make a choice and There are states that are saying we will make the choice for you and that’s problematic to me on an equitable level Attaching jail time and all these things for women. I don’t see the same thing happening for men It’s not the women who would be going to jail It’s people who are providing abortion is that that would be facing criminal charges So I understand the fear and I think there’s a lot of could we agree? There’s a lot of media hype that’s creating a lack of communication and the lack of clarity in a lot of areas and I as a Pro-lifer do not believe that any woman seeking abortion should face criminal charges This is me, chill Well as an American I highly value my rights and freedom to do what I want with my body and things like that These days I’ve been reconsidering my views on gun control because you know, you know There’s mass shootings and innocent people are dying. We have to do something about that and and if I have to Step back and give up some rights to own certain guns. I’ll consider it because Innocent people are dying and I see it as the same thing with abortion and in all our conversation so far Nobody has brought up the rights of the fetus person Doesn’t she have the right but the choice today? But with that being said that’s that’s a cluster of cells that could not a lot of the time exist outside of a woman’s womb III guess I’m just gonna have to agree to disagree with you on that in an ideal world Totally if there were resources and access and support like we wish there were I’d be like totally nobody should have abortions because we have a society that supports people But we actually don’t live in a society where that’s true for everyone. And so that’s the issue. Let’s try right if you don’t draw the line at conception, then where’s the line and when I hear people say Oh like you don’t have the right to choose what to do with my body because it’s my body I feel like I do because if you were to have a pet animal and it was in your backyard And you beat that thing to death? I feel like we all have moral judgment and we I would stand up for that buts Not my animal and it’s not my backyard. It’s not my house I still believe in my moral compass that I should have the right to speak up about it because I genuinely believe that that is wrong Abortion is killing human life. And so that is why I feel that I have the right to say something about it The responsibility of pregnancy prevention is currently equal between men and women Other than in cases of rape or incest I believe that pregnancy prevention is equal because we enter into sexual intimacy both willingly Yeah, I agree with that it takes two people that make those choices whether it’s abstinence whether it’s using Contraceptives consent is what I think where prevention starts Okay, I’ll admit it It is easier for us. I mean, even if there is a birth control pill Culturally today, we’re not taking that we’re not gonna snip and you know it it’s easier. Sorry No, I agree. They always push it towards women if you don’t want to get pregnant Yes, there are condoms out there for men to prevent pregnancy. However It’s not nobody wears. Yeah, that’s true And they’ve also tried to come up with, you know various different birth control methods for men No, no, and it’s the overwhelming response. There’s so many side effects There’s the possibility of this and that and you know, I’ve had a friend that had a stroke because of her birth control You know and I think that it’s really unfair that that responsibility is solely being placed on women Well, and also if it’s gonna be solely on me to prevent then it is solely on me to make a choice thereafter Yeah, I agree with what you guys are saying But these conversations need to be said before any action is done for both people to understand that they are both Responsible for this I agree with you and one of the things that I always think about in the conversation of abortion is education Right any education around our bodies or just consent right or just rape all of these things are not conversations that are widely happening I think about my own experience of sex Ed in high school was taught by the gym teacher Who was also teaching us driver’s training? Right anything there and so I think about What was the quality of The educational experience I got and typically in my partnerships I am the first person that my partner has encountered that is willing and able to have a conversation About sex, about birth control, about all of these things. So it’s interesting that we’re like, we should be having these conversations But people don’t have the emotional intelligence to be having these conversations or the emotional immaturity which is unfortunate But it’s the reality right and so it does leave the onus on the person who is gonna be most impacted Which in this case would be women Someone from the other side sincerely tried to empathize with me Yeah You too Marie have empathized with me the most thank you for just understanding me and then just You know throwing your insight out there yeah, now I really appreciated how you were able to understand each different situation and circumstance and be able to like agree and just Agree to disagree with everything that’s being said I think that this is how real conversations usually occur and It shows people that we don’t have to avoid a topic and so thanks for listening and thanks for sharing and I have to tell the two of you like I’m sorry and on behalf of Any person who’s pro-life who has ever made you feel Criminalized for having had an abortion and I do not believe that anyone should face jail time for having had an abortion. Like I Understand your circumstances and I want you to know that The dude… Feel bad, I feel like I picked on you too. Yes, that was the odd man out But uh, I believe in women’s rights equal pay for equal work. There should be more representation in government my big thing is that The fetus is not just a blob of tissue It’s a real person a him or her and maybe I didn’t get that a cross for you to grasp that on my perspective I hope that it didn’t come across that we are not Empathetic cuz I know for sure I was really trying to listen to You and trying to find a commonality. I was actually like oh interesting Okay, you think this and what and why like, I think I think those things are super valuable to not have the same perspective But still be able to find spaces to a line because that’s where the real work is not us all agreeing But still there are some basic things we want for humans and women and so if that’s true Then we all have to do some sort of work in some sort of bending in places to make that be true Everybody thank you for watching another episode of middle ground. My name is Erin and this is Dan and we are both jubilee directors So you’ve directed a lot on middle ground. What is something that you’ve learned? having done all that I think the biggest thing for my own self growth is it’s made me aware of where my ignorance is like this has forced me to really sit down and hear opinions that I have shut out more often than not and It’s made me have to confront that and grow from that and be more open Yeah, I think once you hear it come from another human being you have to see the human being Coming with that opinion. Yeah Well, if you guys have any thoughts on what you’ve learned for middle ground Please comment below if you like this be sure to follow us on Instagram That’s we’re going to find out a lot more of what’s coming up next in our videos as well as behind the scenes stuff with us and We’d love to get to know you there. So see you then

100 Comments

  • Jubilee says:

    Hi everyone! We decided to bring back a popular topic to hear other people’s perspective on Pro Life vs Pro Choice. This is definitely a difficult topic since we all have our own opinions and experiences on whether we believe in one side or the other.

    Do you know anyone in your life that has either got an abortion or decided to keep the baby & what has that experience been for them?

  • Leila Bank says:

    I agree with Anastasia o: Pro-choice does NOT mean pro-abortion, it just means we think anyone bearing a child should have the CHOICE to abort it or not. Pro-choice and pro-abortion are NOT the same thing.

  • Heyitsmichie_d says:

    Thank you for setting this up. This is still a taboo topic in my country. I like getting my information in this format. Interesting and entertaining(?) but most of all informative.

  • Francis Gabeiel Benasa says:

    Do teachers and students

  • Francis Gabeiel Benasa says:

    Do teachers and students

  • Tay P says:

    I think everyone should be able to have a choice and they can have any option

  • Tay P says:

    I think everyone should be able to have a choice and they can have any option

  • Yuval Aisemberg says:

    But what about girls, any age that are raped and get impregnated against their will?!?! WTF does no one even pay attention to the part of that conversation?

  • Sam Snyder says:

    At 4:50, when the woman said that raising a child in unstable conditions is the same as child abuse, did she not realize that abortion is literally killing the child?

  • Bijan Ashtiani-Eisemann says:

    Timmerie and Natalie were both so understanding and receptive to the other side.

  • Lindy Ichihara says:

    My husband's ex girlfriend aborted their child. She told him it was her choice to make and her body. He offered to take care of that baby and take him after. She did not want to, this kills him and it will always be with him. It was his choice too, and she took it away from him. Man should have a say as well.

  • Lindy Ichihara says:

    I am pro-choice, but I hate that girl with tattoos ideas

  • Anzu says:

    My problem with both sides are that with pro life, it’s almost threatening to innocent women who end up in a mistake like that. With Pro choice (other than rape) you HAD a choice. Birth control and condoms or even DONT HAVE SEX.

    I’m also not okay with the fact that abortion is being used as a form of birth control, and I’m not happy that states are trying to take away the rights of women across America.

    I’m Pro Smart I guess… both?

  • Anzu says:

    Sex should be intimate between two lovers, not a hook up. It’s SO unhealthy.

  • Liz Velasquez says:

    Liz is kinda annoying “but it’s not your body” girl can you please bring another sentence to the table?

  • Pandia 427 says:

    If abortions were able to shift into extraction of the cell cluster without damaging it then that could be a viable option for some people.

  • GRW23g WilliAms says:

    Comparing a dog in a backyard to a baby in a womb is really crazy to me especially coming from a woman🤷🏾‍♂️

  • valerie torres says:

    love these videos ! how do we get to be in one

  • roach says:

    Men feel like second class citizens…. But NO to the things you ask for…. about your own lives and bodies.

  • Stephanie Aguilera says:

    The best solution to the "abortion" problem is that men and women need to have access to information and tools to prevent pregnacies so there wouldnt be abortions more people need to talk about ways to prevent pregancaies and give access to these tools so people do not have to make that difficult choice of aborting if unwanted pregnacies can be avoided then abortion wouldnt have to be an option is would be greatly reduced

  • onepandella P. says:

    I loved this video a lot more than the previous version – this was a healthy conversation that wasn't too bias on one side and equally represented educated perspectives on both sides

  • Oprah Bennett says:

    The pro-life people are living in a world they hope exist but not the reality of hardship.

  • Kaaliyah Harris says:

    I hate how no one talks about why people do not take responsibility for the fact that people chose to have sex knowing that they were not in the place to bring children into the world

  • Monica Schultz says:

    I wonder how many people who grew up poor and or had a challenging life wish they had been aborted.

  • WidowmakersBooty says:

    Respectfully, beating an animal to death an abortion are in no way the same. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, beating an animal his pure torture and inhuman. Many may think 'well killing a small human life is inhuman' well sure, but women generally get abortions when it's no more than a clump of cells. AND as they said, pregnancy ONLY occurs inside the womb, nowhere else. Where animal abuse can be done by anyone, anywhere. And even passed that, I definitely agree all in all the choice is the woman's only. Others can give thoughts or advice, but it's her body, it's impacting her life, and it's her choice.

  • Maddy Shy says:

    If u don’t want the kid give it to an orphanage. Sure it sucks and it’s terrible but I rather be in an orphanage than dead. At least you get a chance.

  • Polly ThePengiun says:

    There really shouldn’t have been a man at all in this. It should have been only women that way it was conversation between the people who are actually capable of giving birth.

  • Angela says:

    Posting this before watching. If you are pro life, you are not actually pro life in all respects toward humans. You are okay with ruining someone’s life with an unwanted burden. You value a bundle of cells over a living breathing human on this earth. You would rather a child be born into a life of disarray and remorse than have them never be born and have the mother/others affected live happy lies. Pro life arguments are immoral. Immoral, period.

  • Sibyl F says:

    wow Timmerie is amazing, just everything about her

  • Harsimran Kaur says:

    Nobody:
    Jason: AS A GUY…

  • Sophia Scokalo says:

    I am and will always be pro choice. My body, my choice. As a survivor, I could never imagine having a child when I was still a child myself. The structure of pro choice allows for people to be pro life versus the structure for pro life doesn’t allow for pro choice.

  • keke lefay says:

    Why is no one ever PRO ABORTION :'( Like if you agry

  • Katerina Pavez says:

    pro-idkimconfusedbothsideshavegoodopinionsandfacts

  • Natalie Perri says:

    This was a very mature discussion. I really appreciate how willing both parties were able to share their views and listen respectfully

  • Samantha Bell says:

    Jason: “I am a YouTuber called PastorJasonAnswers. So yes I am a Christian Pastor 😄” *No one even questions if he’s pro life or pro choice*
    Me: 😂

  • Hope Huff says:

    I wish they would have addressed third and second trimester pregnancy’s instead of focusing when the child is an embryo.

  • Ashley Reed says:

    What I don't get is all these people who claim to be pro choice are using not having the resources to take care of a child makes it okay to have an abortion but what about adoption and all these people who are unable to have children who would be more than happy to take their child 🤔 a conversation that needs to be had God doesn't make mistakes

  • Paulo Matos says:

    Legalizing abortion is not the same as an invitation or incentive to abort. The women who want to abort will do it being legal or not. Legalizing it is about offering these women the option to do it safely, in a hospital with a certified professional and in a way she doesn't have to add shame to that already traumatizing experience.

  • Abbie Peterson says:

    I keep getting more and more triggered at the lady in the hat and glasses…

  • Laura O Mahoney X says:

    I’m pro life and the girl with the green top really pissed me off like if I were a lad and my wife aborted my child without me having a say I would loose it like it’s half man aswell . All people should have the right to live killing baby and not letting it live a life is just horrible

  • Erin Bailey says:

    Nobody brought up the bodily autonomy argument, which I think is the strongest logical argument for abortion. If my daughter was going to die without a blood transfusion from me, for example, there is not a doctor alive who would force me to give up my blood for her life if I was not willing. Why is that different before she is born? We are infringing on women’s’ bodily autonomy to force her to carry a child. Like, sure you can argue that I probably SHOULD give my daughter the blood transfusion (maybe you should carry the fetus to term), but no one would FORCE me to give up the rights to my body to keep her alive. No one here brought up this argument.

  • Kristin Bakay says:

    I love how respectful everyone is

  • ANNIKA ERICKSON says:

    that girl with that green colored hat made lose so many brain cells😑

    (also i love that pastor and the girl in the middle with the pink dress)

  • Human says:

    Saying it’s “just a clump of cells” denies science.

  • Rachel Krafman says:

    I know a mother that gave birth to a child with Cystic fibrosis and then tried to have another child and while pregnant the fetus tested positive for Cystic Fibrosis. If you know anything about CF then you would know that two people with this lung disease cannot be around each other or else both people get extremely ill and die. The mother HAD to get an abortion or else she would have risked bother her children's life. Imagine being in that situation and not being allowed to get an abortion because men said it was against the law?

  • Kyo ;_; says:

    the lack of transgender terminology in these conversations always stings at me. the amount of dysphoria a pregnancy can cause alone is really unbearable, and seeing that these conversations only really carry the word woman also adds on to it.. i wish people were more aware that not only women can get pregnant. yet overall, the people in this video were so incredible respectful to each other and the topic, i’m really proud of them to having the ability of being able to share different perspectives.

  • Dariyah Wolff says:

    Timmerie is so wise and soft spoken

  • Marz Cobiana says:

    Excellent Group of People!

  • Madi Somsel says:

    she really thinks an abortion is child abuse…

  • I should go Beat my wife says:

    11:30 so if a cluster of cells that cant provide or better yet, think for themselves doesn't have the right (or choice) to live…what about people in comas, or people with mental disabilities or some sort of disability that doesnt allow them to function on a regular basis and prohibits them from being able express themselves… Should people in comas get the cord pulled? I wanted this conversation to actually go deep but im very disappointed. It would be great to go Steven Crowder deep. It just seemed like every other debate no ones really really opened up on the deep parts or even thought about them. Anyways, i guess I'm just disappointed on the pro life side and how lightly they touched things.

  • GandalfAndFerg says:

    saying "oh if my brother or i wouldn't be here if my mother aborted me" is not an arguement. Yes pregnancy leads to a human BUT a sperm can lead to a baby. you are not that pregnancy you are your experience of life.

  • GandalfAndFerg says:

    this is all veryyyy painful to watch…… SOOOO painful

  • Jimmy Pop says:

    pro choice people are brainwashed.
    I used to not care about this but now because I know the truth I have to identify as Pro Life.

  • Rain Parrie says:

    The girl in the green beanie was far too defensive for every single topic. I get this is a passionate topic but respect for the other side is crucial if we want civil conversation, so sticking your nose in the air like “I know I’m right I don’t care what they have to say” is not good at all

  • wandering horizons says:

    Just because its inconvenient for you doesnt mean you should end a innocent life

  • Sumayyaa Kapery says:

    My husvand uses condoms…works out perfect for us 😊

  • Luke Bauman says:

    If you don’t want a baby or currently not in a position where the baby would suffer…. then don’t even risk having a baby and don’t have sex.

    And another thing is that she said a baby is just a cluster of cells, isn’t every human a cluster of cells?

  • lioexa says:

    Jolene's whole dog in a backyard comparison was wrong on so many levels and honestly was the most irritating part of the video

  • Aliano Fann says:

    A virgin anti-abortion. U know who lol

  • Daija Matthews says:

    For a good mother, I can completely see where Timmerie is coming from. I think that's it's important that you build a relationship with your child that is both authoritative and loving/accepting so that when they do get into such a difficult situation, they know that they can come to you. However, not every parent and child has this, so I think that it should just be kept between the medical staff and the patient.

  • TT4Days says:

    The woman who had an abortiom after a miscarriage- i dont think thats an abortion abortion , since the baby isnt alive anymore 🙁 sad face. Miscarriages are so sad.

  • Looking For A Name says:

    11:15 to 11:35 : That's the whole debate and why it will never have a satisfying conclusion for everybody. It all depends on what you define as a person and if the foetus fits in that category. I'm pro choice, but if I saw fetuses as actual human beings I'd be pro-life.

  • TT4Days says:

    Dont want kids dont have sex. Rape victims are the only innocent ones bros. If you expect a guy to pay child support when you want a kid and he dont- then he should be able to force you to keep the kid when you dont want to. That doesnt sound right the other way round right? Therefore you better stop making guys who didnt want the kid pay for it.

    Also- if abortion is illegal and you choose to get a shady abortion- unless it was to save your life- you are at fault for what happens to you as a result , like dude . Abortions arent a necessity – no one * except those in life threatening situations * needs an abortion

  • navya vadlamudi says:

    i can make anyone pro life.If you wanna have a discussion i’m happy to do so!!😄

  • Sunna Rut says:

    Can you make a flat earthers vs round earthers one?

  • Miss Lady says:

    Hate when ppl say cluster of cells because that’s false and her being a woman should know that and on top of that every body parts is made of cells so wouldn’t that make us a cluster of cells ? 🤦🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

  • Rita Bos says:

    Were all a cluster of cells dumbass

  • CelStarProductions says:

    Vegans vs meat eaters!

  • Amy 321 says:

    i used to be very pro-life. i believed that abortion was murder and i just wouldn’t think any other way. as i grow up i realised how uneducated i was. i feel super bad now ..

  • Aurelia Ca' Zorzi says:

    The thing is, having an unwanted baby that makes your life really hard or giving it up for adoption is also quite traumatizing.

  • Aurelia Ca' Zorzi says:

    FYI : if this person had never existed, you couldn't have missed them 🙂

  • sal ty says:

    I love timmerie oml

  • alastacol alastacol says:

    This episode made me tear up. Ideally, these are the conversations that should happen. Shut off the media and go approach a person who believes differently from you.

  • Lauren Hope says:

    A heartbeat signifies a life…..when there is no heartbeat there is no life…..when you stop the heartbeat inside of you it is murder.

  • jakebrain says:

    MORPHEUS DRINKIN A 40 IN A DEATH BASKETT

  • Sean Colvin says:

    I would absolutely love to see an episode on Flat Earthers vs… anyone

  • i αm Kαy'sτiεηηα says:

    If you are against abortion, abort yourself…

  • Angel A Cuebas Mercado says:

    That asian girl is thinking of a utopic society where everyone has consentual sex and a estable home. Privilege is blinding.

  • Angel A Cuebas Mercado says:

    The perception of what a "person" is is very subjective.

  • Asian Octopus says:

    You could tell which side has certain opinions just by looking at how beautiful the different women are

  • The_3_greys says:

    Flat earthers vs globers

  • The_3_greys says:

    Flat earthers vs globers!!

  • wildflower says:

    why is there a man here

  • King Yellow says:

    Sorry, just wondering if this is a thing anywhere else in the world other then in USA?

  • PeterleZainmer Mainzer says:

    If you have a comfortable life like this fundamental woman, it is easy to say abortion is wrong including for raped women.
    But once this woman would be raped by a black man with HIV, she would be abort.
    Same went with mother Teresa. She preached: illness and pain brings us nearer to Jesus who suffered too.
    In her "hospitals" the suffering did at the best get aspirin. 99.99% of all donations – we are talking about 300-700 million $ – went to the Vatican.
    When this criminal Teresa got cancer and pain she flew with a private jet to USA to a private clinic. She did not want to suffer. Shame on this criminal woman.

  • East Kidd says:

    THeres a pro life club at my catholic school :/ like why

  • Jajajaja jajajaja says:

    I loved this conservation💌

  • Jetfire97 says:

    TombWraith I know you're here. I just wanted to know if you've heard about the "cheerleader high-schooler" that buried her newborn baby in her backyard. She has been on the news lately.
    So sad.

  • Romaniya Voloshchuk says:

    Timmerie seems very kind, but she is totally misguided and her statements are extremely misleading. For example, she talks about Crisis Pregnancy Centers as if they were helpful – they aren’t. They are posing as abortion clinics, trapping women, giving them false information, and completely failing to provide any tangible support for them after they give birth. Likewise, how can you say that putting doctors who perform abortions in jail be beneficial for women? If no one is willing to perform a medically safe abortion, we will go back to the unsafe home abortions (as is already often the case in states like Texas). So the result is the same. Plus, what if someone performs abortion on themselves? Won’t that be classified as murder under such a law? And then, how can a woman who had a miscarriage prove that it wasn’t an abortion? According to doctors, it’s hard to tell – especially when it was induced by a deliberate fall or physical injury… and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. I really wish there was some side note to clarify this stuff, because I see very positive comments about her, but her statements are actually really problematic.

  • Nol is Best Boi says:

    Can't👏take👏care👏of👏a👏baby👏then👏don't👏have👏sex

  • Ali ASMR says:

    If you cannot take care of the baby, PLS PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION INSTEAD OF ABORTING THEM

  • Ali ASMR says:

    ‘We want abortion, but we don’t want to wear condoms’ woah woah woah, what the hell

  • Megan Thomas says:

    'It takes two to tango', in tango there's almost always consent. In becoming pregnant, not always. Also in tango one party doesn't bare the main responsibility of carrying and often looking after that child.

  • Ironic Kid says:

    I'm pretty tired of hearing people say "pro choice = pro abortion" because pro choice is ONLY for the choice of what to do with the fetus. Nothing more nothing less. A 16 year old girl who doesn't want to have a baby should make the choice not to just as a 36 year old nun who does want to have a child should make the choice to have it. But both are discriminated for their choices and being pro choice means you believe they should do with whatever they want to their own bodies.

  • derpbearfilms says:

    I am pro choice, listen, abortion needs to be open. If a person is too sick, and can't have a baby and will die if she does, if abortion is illegal, she will die, no breast milk and no money for formula, the baby will die, it's better to have 1 thing die, than to let 2 people die, got it. Also, who cares if someone get's an abortion, you aren't their boss, people should be able to make that decision without criticism.

  • Char Alexis says:

    I can somewhat get what pro life is trying to say but I really hope they get it is called pro choice. Not pro abortion. If you do not agree with abortion that is perfectly okay you don’t have to get an abortion but trying to take it away from someone else that’s just not right. Everyone is their own person and you should understand that they should have the choice to decide what they want to do. It should not be up to you on what another woman wants to do with her own body. What are you accomplishing by taking away someone else’s right ??? Like tell me pls explain to me what do u accomplish? Forcing a women to have a baby she doesn’t want? What does that accomplish? Nothing. And I cannot believe that girl compared a FETUS to a LIVE animal?

  • ariane. says:

    I dont like when they basically say I know people who regretted to had an abortion so that's why nobody should have one.

  • Lie Luh says:

    “Doesn’t have the fetus have a say in it” … really? lol. Hey fetus what you think ?🤔

  • Lexi Fisher says:

    I felt bad for Kimberly, it seemed like she was just sad the whole time 🙁

  • A J says:

    'nobody wears it'

    Then why is the condom industry valued at over $7B?

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