Board of County Commissioners Meeting – September 17, 2019

Board of County Commissioners Meeting – September 17, 2019


ALL RIGHT, WE ARE READY FOR OUR SCHEDULED MEETING. AT THIS TIME I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER MADDOX. >>WE WELCOME EVERYONE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME. WE HAVE ELDER REVEREND TERRY FROM THE PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH TO GIVE THE INDICATION FOR TODAY. >>LET’S PRAY. GOD, WE PRAY NOW PETITIONING YOU FOR WISDOM AND DECISIONS THIS AFTERNOON THAT WILL BE MADE ON BEHALF OF OF THIS COUNTY. INFILTRATE THE MINDS OF THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MAKE SOUND DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF YOUR PEOPLE. THAT THE WEEK MAY BECOME STRONG AND THE OPPRESSED MAYBE LIBERATED AND THE MARGINALIZED MAY BE LIFTED. EVERY COUNTY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AND NOT BE PREJUDICE OR BIAS BUT ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>THANK YOU ELDER PRICE. >>I THINK THE CHAIRMAN IS ON HIS WAY DOWN TO PRESENT THE HUMANITARIAN AWARD AND KEVIN COX IS HERE. >>I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN COX AT THIS TIME. KEVIN AND I MET EACH OTHER LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HIM AS HE IS A DESERVING RECIPIENT. >>THANK YOU. I’M KEVIN COX AND IT IS A SPECIAL TIME OF THE YEAR FOR US. WE RECENTLY SAW THAT I 11 AND TOGETHER WITH PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GOVERNMENT, WE ALWAYS DO A 911 DAY OF REMEMBRANCE AND IN ADDITION TO THE MILITARY CARE PACKAGES AND TRYING TO INSPIRE OTHER GOOD WORKS, WE RECOGNIZE THE PARTNER OF OUR FIRM AND HE WAS A PARTNER IN OUR NEW YORK OFFICE IN 2001 AND WAS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER AND EMERGENCY RESPONDER AND AFTER HE HELPED EVACUATE OUR OFFICE IN DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN, THAT DAY INSTEAD OF RUNNING NORTH WITH HIS COLLEAGUES, HE TURNED SOUTH AND GRABBED HIS BAG AND WENT TO THE SOUTH TOWER ALONG WITH SO MANY OTHER EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AND OTHERS TO TRY TO HELP US AND HE LOST HIS LIFE THAT DAY ALONG WITH SO MANY OTHERS BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SET AN EXAMPLE FOR US OF WHAT IT MEANS THAT WHEN WE ARE AT OUR BEST, WE ARE SERVING AND SACRIFICING FOR EACH OTHER. IN TALLAHASSEE, WE HAVE CREATED AN AWARD AND WE NAMED IT AFTER HIM. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THESE HEROES AND THERE ARE EVERYDAY HEROES THAT ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL RECIPIENT AND I WOULD ASK MIKE AND HIS WIFE TO JOIN ME. LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MIKE LONG. HE WAS NOMINATED BY SOME VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS THAT HE WAS TRAINED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HE HAS AFFECTED MANY OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND HAS CREATED OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAINING THAT THESE DEPARTMENT ARE TWICE THE SIZE THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO BE MORE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE TO HELP PROTECT THE LIVES OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. HE HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE AND AS A FIREFIGHTER HIMSELF, HE TOLD ME THAT HE IS THE FIRST ONE IN AND THE LAST ONE OUT IF THERE IS A STRUCTURE THAT IS IN JEOPARDY, I LEARNED ALSO THAT THIS IS NOTHING NEW FOR MR. LONG. HE WAS WITH THE DRUG SERVICES AND PROVIDED LEADERSHIP ON SO MANY PUBLIC ISSUES AND I ALSO LEARNED THAT HE SERVED IN VIETNAM AND WAS A DECORATED VETERAN. HE IS AN EXTRAORDINARY PERSON AND WE ARE SO HONORED TO RECOGNIZE HIM TODAY AND HIS EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS. HE HAS BEEN VERY HUMBLE BUT HE SAID HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHARE A COUPLE OF WORDS SO I WILL LET HIM DO THAT AND THEN I WOULD LIKE CHAIRMAN JACKSON TO PRESENT THE REWARD TO HIM. ú>> I WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS AN EXTREME HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED AND TO DO THIS IN MEMORY OF WHO I CONSIDER TO BE A TRUE HERO. TO BE NOMINATED IS EVEN MORE AMAZING. THEY CANNOT DO WHAT THEY DID WITHOUT DEDICATION AND SACRIFICE SO THANK YOU. >>[ APPLAUSE ] >>THANK YOU. AS THE CHAIRMAN WALKS BACK UP, I AM SO USED TO HEARING YOU EVERY YEAR AND I CAN THINK OF MISS ONE STORY AND IT RESONATES THE SAME WAY EVERY YEAR SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY AND MR. LONG, NOT PENNING PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS HAVE IMPACTED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKE YOU AND IT IS HUGE. I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A VOLUNTEER AND THEY ARE INVALUABLE. I WANTED TO SAY THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >>WE HAVE NO CONSENT ITEMS PULLED. >> THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED TO APPROVE AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >>I. >>OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. IMPASSES. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE MR. ADMINISTRATOR. >>WE HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD WITH AGENDA ITEMS IN THE FIRST ONE IS COMMISSIONER DOZIER. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY. >>MY NAME IS MELISSA DR AND I MET 19 SINCLAIR ROAD. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS A MOVE FOR LCSO. WHICH IS A TRUST FUND. 50,000 IS GOING TO CHARITIES AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE HOLISTIC CANNABIS COMMUNITIES AS ONE OF THOSE CHARITIES BECAUSE WE WILL DIRECTLY REINVEST IN COMMUNITIES. WE FEEL THE BEST WAY FOR CRIME AND DRUG PREVENTION IS THROUGH ACCESS AND WE WOULD USE THE FUNDS TO HELP ENTER THE LEGAL MARIJUANA MARKET. TO REINVEST EVEN WITH EXPUNGEMENT’S AND WE ARE TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND ONE OF THE WAYS IS TO REINVEST IN COMMUNITIES AND ESPECIALLY IF THESE ARE FUNDS COMING FROM ASSETS. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER TO BE HEARD. DR. WHO FIELD.>> GOOD AFTERNOON. DR. HOLFIELD, IF YOU WILL NOTICE OF THE BOTTOM OF SECTION 1-A, EVERY DAY, THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT HAVE SUPPORTED DEMOCRACY SENSE 1905. DO YOU REMEMBER SEEING THAT? THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE. THEY HAVE NOT SUPPORTED DEMOCRACY SINCE 1905. BY AND LARGE, THE TOTAL HASEK DEMOCRAT HAS SUPPORTED WHITE SUPREMACY SINCE 1905. THERE ARE RECORDS AND THAT WAS CAROL. SHE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE A PART OF THE BOARD UNTIL THE 19th . THEY HAD FORMER ADVISORY COMMITTEES. THEY WERE NEVER ON THE EDITORIAL BOARD AND AGAINST WHAT? NOW, THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRATS WANT TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WEIGHT EDITORIAL BOARD AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I’M JUST BRINGING ON THEM. I HAVE SPOKE TO MR. HATFIELD I THINK IS NAME IS SO WHAT ARE Y’ALL DOING? WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR DECADES TO GET A BLACK EDITORIAL BOARD AND NOW WE ARE GOING BACK TO AN ALL- WHITE EDITORIAL BOARD. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DONALD TRUMP IS WINNING. THIS BODY ADVERTISES THE TALLAHASSEE DOING QUINCE AND IT IS MY PERCEPTION THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD NOT SUBMIT ONE MORE PAY ADVANCEMENT TO THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT UNTIL THEY GET RID OF THEIR OWN EDITORIAL BOARD. THIS IS NOT COMPLICATED. IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. THEY NEED TO IMMEDIATELY HAVE A BLACK PERSON FOR THE EDITORIAL BOARD FOR YOU ALL DON’T NEED TO GIVE THEM ANY MORE MONEY. NOT A DIME. I GUESS YOU HAVE TO FULFILL THE PERMANENT RECORDS REQUEST BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, NOT ONE MORE DYING. >>THANK YOU. >>TO THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRATIC EDITORIAL BOARD UNTIL THEY PUT A WHITE PERSON ON THE EDITORIAL BOARD AND IN THE MEANTIME, THEY NEED TO STOP THAT LIE. >>THANK YOU. >> THEY NEED TO STOP SAYING THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORTED SINCE 1905 AND I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IN A TUTORIAL IN 1957. THERE WAS THE FIRST MAN TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE NOW WITH THE DEMOCRATS THAT SAID “LET THE WHITE MAN WIN.” THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY. THAT IS WHITE SUPREMACY. THANK YOU. >> ON THAT NOTE, I WILL REMIND SPEAKERS THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >>THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. THE FINAL SPEAKER IS RYAN SLATER. >> HI, MY NAME IS RYAN SLATER AND I WORK FOR THE SERVICE AND I’M THE SUPERVISOR. THIS IS A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE MEETING WE ARE HAVING AND I HAVE INFORMATION COMING OUT. THIS IS LOCATED IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND I BELIEVE IT IS IN DISTRICT 1. TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA, THIS IS SOUTH OF TRAN ROAD AND EAST OF WILL PLANK ROAD. RECENTLY, WE HAVE HAD THE FIRST MANAGEMENT AND THERE ARE COMMUNITY CONCERNS FROM FRIDAY TO 27th WITH THE PUBLIC MEETING HEARING THAT WILL BEGIN AT 11 AM. THE LOCATION WILL BE AT THE TALLAHASSEE GROCERY CENTER AT 86 COUNTY ROAD IN TALLAHASSEE. FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS MEETING, I CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE. THERE IS A MANAGEMENT PLAN AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> MR. SHARE, JUST ONE SECOND, I KNOW WE DON’T NORMALLY ENGAGE WITH THE SPEAKERS AT THIS POINT BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A MEDIA ANNOUNCEMENT, WE HAVE MR. SLIDER HERE. MAY I ASK HIM A QUICK QUESTION? >>SURE. >> JUST FOR INFORMATION, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE INFORMATION. IF I HAVE THE LOCATION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, IT IS IN BETWEEN TRAN ROAD AND THE PIPELINE EASEMENT. JUST NORTH OF PIPELINE, CORRECT?>>YES. >>ARE YOU AWARE OF THE TRANSMISSION LINE? >>I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THEM ALREADY. >>SO YOU ARE ENGAGE IN THAT DISCUSSION ? OKAY. MR. CHAIR, THIS HAS BEEN JUST SUCH A BIG ISSUE SO I WANTED TO SAY THAT. >> THE LOCATION OF THE MEETING IS ACTUALLY DISTRICT TO. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT ANNOUNCEMENT. THAT IS ON THE COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 2. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME? >>THERE ARE NONE. >> MOVING ON TO OUR FIRST PART OF BUSINESS. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS COMES FROM MY OFFICE AS WELL AS HERBS AND I WILL INVITE HIM TO JOIN ME WHEN APPROPRIATE BUT WE HAVE AN INTRODUCTION FOR JUNE 18 AND THIS AGENDA ITEM HAS A REPORT ON THE COUNTY CITATION PROGRAM AS WELL AS RECENT MARIJUANA EFFORTS. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS COMPREHENSIVE HOWEVER, IN SHORT, IT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE EXISTING PRE-AND POST ARREST PROGRAMS ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE OFFICE WITH THE SECOND JUDICIAL CIRCUIT WHICH PROVIDE DIVERSION FROM PROSECUTION IN CASES INVOLVING OPPOSITION OF LESS THAN 20 GRAMS OF MARIJUANA. YOU MAY RECALL FROM YOUR DELIBERATIONS THAT WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO OFFER SUCH ALTERNATIVES AND THE ITEM GOES ON WITH WHAT A FEW CANDIDATES ARE DOING SINCE THAT TIME FOR THE ADOPTION OF COUNTY ORDINANCES AND WE WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CONSTRAINTS INVOLVED WITH THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO PROSECUTE THESE CASES THAT ARE VESTED IN THE STATE ATTORNEY’S OFFICE. WE ALSO HAVE THE STARTERS OF ISSUES WITH THE LANDSCAPE RELATED TO MARIJUANA AND WITH THAT, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>I WILL START OFF BY COMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE WORK OF ANY AND STAFF. I KNOW THERE IS PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE OF ITEMS AND I THINK ON PAGE 371, IT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE VIOLATIONS FOR THE CIVIL CITATION PROGRAM AND THAT IS IMPORTANT AS I READ THROUGH THE ITEM SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK. >>MR. CHAIRMAN, I FELT KNOW THAT YOU DO HAVE A SPEAKER. >>OKAY, WE WILL LISTEN TO OUR SPEAKER BEFORE WE MAKE COMMENTS . GO AHEAD. >> HI THERE AND THANK YOU. I AM MELISSA DIOR IN TALLAHASSEE AND I HAVE SEVERAL NOTES. ONE, WHAT THE STAFF NOTED GENERALLY IS UNDER FEDERAL LAW BUT IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT. CAN’T IS A STRAIN OF THE CANNABIS PLANTS AND ALL THE CHEMICAL PROPERTIES WHICH INCLUDE 400 TO 500 ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THE ONLY THING THAT IS RIGHT NOW ON THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE LIST IS THE MARIJUANA DRIVE WHICH IS THE DELTA NINE WHICH IS ANYTHING OVER .3% DELTA NINE. THE STRAIN AND THE FLOWER OR THE PLANT ITSELF INCLUDES ALL THE PROPERTIES AND CBD IS NO LONGER SCHEDULED UNDER FEDERAL LAW SO IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU HAVE ZERO OR IF YOU HAVE 10 OR 20 OR 30% CBD. IT IS NO LONGER A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE IF IT IS CONCLUDED AS A DERIVATIVE OF HAND. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AND I DO APPRECIATE THE VERY INFORMATIVE STAFF ANALYSIS AND I MUST ALSO SAY THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST 25 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SINCE 2016 AND THE MAJORITY OCCURRED BEFORE DECEMBER OF 2016 THAT ADOPTED SOME ORDINANCES FOR POSSESSION. I DO WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION ALSO. THE CIVIL PROGRAM IN THIS AREA IS DISCRIMINATORY IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU ARE THE UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPANTS, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE NOW REFERRING STUDENTS TO THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND THAT IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST OTHER SIMILAR AGED INDIVIDUALS IF THEY ARE BASED ON THE EDUCATIONAL STATUS. I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. THE MEMORANDUM FROM THE DISTRICT AND FROM THE ATTORNEY, THE STATE ATTORNEY IN THE AREA AND HOSTING ALL OF ARREST AND SEARCH AND SEIZURES, I DO WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT IF ONE PERSON ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ARREST, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE AND A $100 FINE, IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN POSSESSION WANTS OR HAD A FELONY OR PREVIOUS CHARGES, ANY PERSON SHOULD BE AND WE FEEL IT IS YOUR PERSONAL RIGHT TO BE IN POSSESSION. >>THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I HAVE COMMISSIONER DESLOGE AND COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >>THANK YOU. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WOULD BE PENALIZED AND WE DON’T HAVE THE LATITUDE OR AUTHORITY BUT WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO HERE IS MAKE IT SO THAT LESS PEOPLE END UP IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY AND 5% OF THE WORLD POPULATION IS INCARCERATED AND THAT MEANS THERE IS SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG. WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING OVER $35 MILLION ON INMATES AND TO THE SPEAKERS POINT, THERE ARE 26 ARRESTS IN THE AGENCIES IN LEON COUNTY AND WE ARE TRYING TO CORNY ALL OF THAT SO THAT THEY HAVE SOME ABILITY TO MANAGE THIS BUT THEY ARE THE FRONT LINES AND THEY WILL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. I MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PIECE OF WORK AND I WILL SUPPORT IT. >>WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? >>THANK YOU. I GUESS I WILL ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR ON PAGE 11 WITH THE EFFORTS TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA POSSESSION, GIVEN THAT MIAMI-DADE COUNTY AND BROWARD COUNTY, ORANGE COUNTY, HILLSBORO , LET ME JUST SAY THE MAJORITY OF FLORIDA’S POPULATION EXISTS UNDER STANDARDS WHERE THE LOCAL EFFORTS TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA EXISTS AND THEY ARE LIVING IN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE MISDEMEANORS WITH 20 GRAMS OR LESS TO BE A CIVIL OFFENSE NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. IS THAT ACCURATE? >>COMMISSIONER, THAT IS WHAT THOSE JURISDICTIONS HAVE DECIDED. GIVEN THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DECISIONS OF FLORIDA EXIST IN AREAS WHERE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS HAVE DECIDED THAT IT IS A CIVIL OFFENSE WITH 20 GRAMS OR LESS AND NOT A CRIMINAL MATTER, HOW IS THIS WORKING OUT IN TERMS OF INTERFACING WITH LAW AGENCIES WHICH ARE ABIDING BY THE STANDARDS SET BY LOCAL GOVERNANCE? >> FIRST, LET ME SAY THAT MY OPINION IS THAT WE CANNOT DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA IN LEON COUNTY. IT IS A CRIMINAL ACT BY STATE STATUTES AND BY FEDERAL STATUTES. YOU CANNOT MAKE NON-CRIMINALS THAT WITCHES WHICH IS CRIMINAL. MY ADVICE IS THAT YOU CANNOT DO IT. BUT, THE OTHER PROBLEM COMMISSIONER WITH THAT IS AS COMMISSIONER DESLOGE SAID, WE DON’T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING AND IF THOSE LAW- ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WHETHER IT BE AT THE ALLEY OR THE FSU POLICE DEPARTMENT OR LCSO CHOOSE NOT TO HONOR SUCH AN ORDINANCE, THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. THERE IS ALWAYS A TWOFOLD PROBLEM. CAN YOU DO IT AND THEN EVEN IF YOU CAN, WHILE LAW AGENCIES ABIDE BY IT AND WE HAVE NO SAY SO IN THAT. >>OKAY. I MENTIONED THAT THE COUNCILS TO THE DADE COUNTY AND ALWAYS OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE IN POSITION BUT NEVERTHELESS, NOTWITHSTANDING ADVICE, THEY REPRESENT IDEAS ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT WERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE. IT SEEMS THAT IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL WHERE WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS WITH LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT SEEM TO ADHERE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE LOCAL ORDINANCES HAVE FEDERAL STANDARDS STRONGER THAN IDEAS ABOUT THE PROHIBITION AND THEREFORE, JUST BECAUSE THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE MUCH LARGER AND HAVE LARGER FISH TO FRY, MAYBE THEY MAY CONSIDER SIMPLE MARIJUANA VIOLATIONS AS A NUISANCE BUT NEVERTHELESS, FOR THOSE THAT MAY OCCUR CRIMINAL RECORDS BECAUSE AS WE HAVE THE CIVIL CITATION PROGRAM, IT IS STILL A DISCRETIONARY MATTER AND AS LONG AS THERE IS A DISCRETION WHEN OFFERING A CIVIL CITATION, THAT SIMPLY IS NOT A STANDARD. WITH THE QUALITY TO ALL PEOPLE WITH ALL PERSONS LISTED, I DO LIKE THAT STAFF IN ITS CONCLUSION RECOGNIZES THAT THE ATTORNEY WAS VERY IN STEP WITH WHAT HE WAS SWORN TO DO WHATEVER STAFF INDICATES TO US THAT THE BOARD MAY WISH TO CONSIDER A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES PENALTIES INSTEAD OF CRIMINAL CHARGES AND I BELIEVE A BOARD AND STAFF INDICATING TO US THAT THERE IS NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THIS BODY AND THE PRESIDENT IS WELL-ESTABLISHED IN THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA UNDER THE STATUS THAT MARIJUANA POSSESSION IS A CIVIL CITATION AND I THINK THE CAPITAL COUNTY OF FLORIDA OUGHT TO BE A STANDARD WITH WHAT THE REST OF THE STATE IS TRYING TO SAY AND I OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR STAFF TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES FOR CIVIL PENALTIES INSTEAD OF CIVIL CHARGES FOR 20 GRAMS OF MARIJUANA POSSESSION WITH THOSE ELEMENTS IN THAT FAMILY OF MARIJUANA AND I OFFER THAT AS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. >>A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR AT THIS TIME. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MADDOX. >> THE MOTION IS FROM THE LANGUAGE ON PAGE 12 ON THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH. WITH REGARD TO EXPLORING A LOCAL ORDINANCE TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA POSSESSION AND THE BOARD MAY WISH TO CONSIDER A DRAFTED ORDINATES THAT PROVIDES FOR CIVIL PENALTIES INSTEAD OF CRIMINAL CHARGES AND THE MOTION IS THAT WE DRAFT THE ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES PENALTIES AND NOT CRIMINAL CHARGES, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS SAID.>>A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE , A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR OPTION TWO SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MADDOX AND MADE BY COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >>NO RESPECT FOR WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS OFFERING WITH HIS VERY CONSERVATIVE IDEAS AND HE IS CORRECT IN HIS ADMONISHMENTS TO US WITH RESPECT TO THE FELLOW AND STATE STANDARDS. WE KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF FLORIDA AND CITIZENS IN FLORIDA HAVE DEEMED THAT THIS IS JUST A CIVIL MATTER AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN AND NOT THAT IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR US TO PASS OUR ORDINANCE, IT IS NOT BUT WE SHOULD BE IN LOCKSTEP WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE PRESIDENT AND NOT BE YEARS BEHIND. I STRONGLY URGE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE COLLEGE TOWN UNION AND THE EVOLUTION OF VALUES AND THOUGHTS AND WE CAN’T WAIT TO SPEAK FOR THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT WE ARE WE HAVE ARRIVED AT AND WHERE THE STUDENTS I COME TO OUR COMMUNITY , IT IS JUST WEIRD THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD COME HERE WHETHER THEY ARE DOING NOTHING CRIMINAL BUT THEY COME HERE AND NOT KNOWING THAT WE ARE NOT LIKE THAT AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING CRIMINAL. THIS IS WRONG AND I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER A REGARD FOR THE TEMPERAMENT OF TIMES AND FOR THE FAIRNESS OF NOT MARKING PEOPLE’S LIVES WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES BUT WE CAN MAKE THAT A CIVIL REALITY AND THAT IS ON THE DISCRETION OF A LAW OFFICER OF WHO HE WANTS TO DEEM IS WORTHY OF A CITATION. >>THANK YOU. A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE FOR OPTION TWO SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MADDOX. WE WILL TAKE COMMISSIONER DESLOGE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE GOING. THEY WANT TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA AND AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, THAT IS A NONSTARTER. WE CANNOT DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA. THAT WENT FROM 8000 TO 4000 AND WITH THE MOTION OF COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, I WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT WILL DIFFER FROM WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY? >>AS BEST I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE ENDEAVORING TO DO IS TO PROVIDE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE SO INSTEAD OF NOT DECRIMINALIZING IT PER SE, THEY ARE ADDING A CIVIL CITATION úOP FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS TO USE. WE CAN DRAFT THAT AND THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE THAT I RAISE SECONDARILY WAS THAT WE CANNOT MAKE ANYBODY USE IT. >>RIGHT. IT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT’S JURISDICTION. I GET ARRESTED AND THE POLICE PICKS ME UP AND I HAVE LESS THAN 20 IN MY POCKET. UNDER TODAY’S CIRCUMSTANCES, HOW DO I GET PROCESSED VERSUS THIS? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. >>IF YOU HAVE AN OTHERWISE CLEAN RECORD, YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CIVIL CITATION PROGRAM TODAY AS IT STANDS. >>THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. >>YOU WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND IF YOU COMPLETE IT SUCCESSFULLY, NO CHARGES ARE FILED AGAINST YOU. >>WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE , I BELIEVE WHAT COMMISSIONER PROCTOR IS LOOKING FOR IS ELIMINATING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CLEAN RECORD. SO, IF YOU HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED 5C MARIJUANA AND TWO DUIS AND SHOPLIFTING, YOU WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CIVIL CITATION UNLIKE THE CURRENT DIVERSION PROGRAM WE HAVE NOW. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >>COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, IS THAT LINE WITH WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO GO WITH THIS? >> THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS A WAY WITH WORDS AND WE ARE STILL BE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT AND THAT WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE COME TO OUR AREA AND HE KNOWS WELL THE EXACT STANDARDS. NOT SOMEONE WITH FIVE DUIS AND ALL THAT, THAT IS AN EXTREME CASE BUT YOU ARE 19 YEARS OLD AND YOU HAVE SOME MARIJUANA AND IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A CRIMINAL RECORD, I’M JUST TRYING TO TAKE THAT DISCRETION OUT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND 20 GRAMS OR LESS IS A CITATION PERIOD AND SOMETIMES LAW OFFICERS ARE REACHING. >> WE CANNOT TAKE THAT ON. >>WE HAVE A LETTER TO US AND I THINK THAT ABE EVEN CITES THE STATE ATTORNEY AND THEY ARE NOT PROSECUTING MARIJUANA CASES. WHY? BECAUSE YOU CAN’T DISTINGUISH THE FACILITIES OR THE DOGS THAT SMELL AND TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN MARIJUANA AND DOGS AND KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. WHEN YOU HAVE THE LAW ITSELF SAYING THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE, WHEN THE LAW ITSELF IS SAYING THERE IS NO STANDARD THAT WE FILL COMFORTABLE BY ANY LONGER, WHY DO WE FEEL SO COMFORTABLE? >>I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT COMMISSIONER PROCTOR HAS A TO BE FULL JOB AS USUAL BUT I WANT TO GO AT THE EXPENSE OF ANY CONFUSION. THESE JURISDICTIONS WERE OF PASS ORDINANCES AND THE STATE ATTORNEY’S OFFICE HAS EXTENSIVELY AGREED WITH THE JURISDICTION AND SAID WE WILL NOT PROSECUTE AN HOUR STATE ATTORNEY IS TO BE CLEAR, I AM NOT ARGUING ONE WAY OR OTHER BUT HE IS EMPHATIC THAT THIS REMAINS IN HIS OFFICE. >> I’M SORRY, COMMISSIONER DOZIER YOU ARE FIRST UP AND THEN COMMISSIONER MADDOX. >>THAT IS FINE. I WANT TO JUMP IN AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER WILLIE HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE AND I APPRECIATE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. I AM INCLINED IN THAT DIRECTION WITHOUT A SUITABLE ALTERNATIVE, QUITE FRANKLY. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY CHALLENGING POSITION THAT WE ARE IN BECAUSE OF THE MISMATCH STATE AND FEDERAL RULES THAT WE HAVE SEEN EVOLVE OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SEVEN YEARS. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? WE HAVE LIKE 33 STATES OR SO THAT HAVE PASSED SOME LEVEL OF YOU THERE MEDICAL MARIJUANA OR RECREATIONAL USE AND AN HOUR STATE IT HAS BEEN MEDICAL. THERE WILL LIKELY BE AN AMENDMENT NEXT YEAR TO FULLY DECRIMINALIZE RECREATIONAL BUT THAT DOESN’T DO ANYTHINGON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE ARE IN A BOX RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS RULES AND MY FEAR IS THAT THE WAY WE ARE OPERATING, EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD BE SAID CIVIL CITATION, WILL YOU BE THE FIRST COUNTY IN THE STATE WITH THIS PROGRAM? >> THE ORDINANCES REMODELED AFTER THE PROGRAM. >>THAT IS EXCEPTIONAL AND I DON’T WANT ANY THIS DISCUSSION TO DOWNPLAY THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CITATION PROGRAM AND I’M GLAD THEY ARE TAKING THAT IN AND ALLOWING MORE PEOPLE TO ACCESS THAT PROGRAM. EVEN THOUGH ONLY 283 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT PROGRAM AND THAT IS NOT A HUGE AMOUNT GIVEN HOW MANY PEOPLE MENTIONED THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THAT. SO, THE MISDEMEANOR DIVERSION PROGRAM WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY IS FOR FIRST-TIME OFFENDERS AND THE CITATION ALSO, YOU CAN HAVE ANY PREVIOUS CRIMINAL HISTORY. SO, WITH DUE RESPECT, THERE ARE CERTAINLY THOSE THAT HAVE A LONG PATTERN OF CRIMINAL HISTORY AND THEY MAY FALL INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY BUT SOMEONE COULD BE PREVENTED FROM USING ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS IF THEY HAVE A DUI. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, IT IS THAT SIMPLE. IT’S NOT ROBBERY OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT IT COULD JUST BE A DUI THAT PREVENTS YOU FROM HAVING ACCESS TO EITHER OF THESE PROGRAMS AND IF YOU DON’T QUALIFY OR PAY 200 OR $300 TO GET INTO THE PRESCRIPTION PIPELINE, IF YOU ARE CAUGHT WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND DON’T HAVE A PRESCRIPTION, THAT CAN’T BE A MISDEMEANOR. THAT IS A CHARGE ON YOUR RECORD. IS THAT CORRECT? SO, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK AND MAYBE IN THE LAST 15 YEARS TO OVERCOME SOME OF THE DOUBLE STANDARDS WE HAVE HAD IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. NOT ONE PERSON BUT IN THE PROSECUTION OF DRUGS AND OTHER TYPES OF CRIMES. INCREMENTAL PROGRESS TO BE SURE AND ICS RAPIDLY IS CREATING A DOUBLE STANDARD HERE. SUPERVISED RELEASE, WE SAW THAT COME UP IN MARCH OR SO AND WE HAD PEOPLE BEING ARRESTED FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA THAT SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS THE CAPABILITIES TO GET HER PRESCRIPTION CARD, IT IS LEGAL FOR THEM AND THAT DOES NOT SEEM FAIR TO ME. IT DOESN’T SEEM FAIR THAT THEY ARE PREVENTED FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT A CRIMINAL RECORD CAN DO. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JOBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS TO ME IS THE DIVIDING LINE AND WITH RESPECT TO THE STATES ATTORNEY, I HAVE GREAT RESPECT AND I UNDERSTAND THE U. S. ATTORNEY AND THE STATE ATTORNEY ARE BOTH STRUGGLING WITH THIS IN THE SAME WAY WE ARE BUT MAYBE DIFFERENTLY BUT IN THE SAME REASONS. YOU MENTIONED THE 11th AND 17th CIRCUITS AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO GO ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCES PASSED BY COUNTIES WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS. IS THAT RIGHT? SO, THIS ITEM ONLY SAYS THAT SEVERAL COUNTIES IN FLORIDA HAVE PASSED THESE ORDINANCES BY MY COUNT, THERE WAS 15 AS OF APRIL 2019 AND ARE ALL 15 OF THOSE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION? ARE THOSE STATES ATTORNEYS THAT COVER THAT? THAT WOULD BE A CRITICAL PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE BECAUSE IF WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT THE MAIN REASON WHY WE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE IS BECAUSE THE STATE ATTORNEY WILL NOT GO ALONG WITH IT THAN I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES BECAUSE YOU ONLY CITE TWO. >> I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. >>THANK YOU. >> IN CONNECTING THE ANALYSIS, WE DID REACH OUT TO ALL THE DIFFERENT STATE ATTORNEY OFFICES IN AREAS OF THE STATE WHERE THEY HAVE ADOPTED A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE AND THE THREE THAT WE HEARD BACK FROM AND ALSO THE EIGHTH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND THE STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE HAS INDICATED ALTHOUGH THERE IS AN ORDINANCE IN THE BOOKS, THEY HAVE HANDLED ZERO CASES BECAUSE THE SHARES OFFICES THEY DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. >>OKAY. THANK YOU, THAT IS VERY HELPFUL. DO YOU KNOW ARE THERE 15 COUNTIES THAT HAVE PASSED OR DO HAVE A GENERAL SENSE OF THAT NUMBER? >>THERE ARE DIFFERENT SOURCES BUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 20 BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES. >>OKAY. >> HOW MANY COUNTIES? >> ABOUT SEVEN. >> YEAH, GOOD CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. WHERE I AM COMING DOWN ON THIS, I THINK MY PROBLEM HERE IS THAT WE HAVE A DOUBLE STANDARD AND I TRULY APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE THAT OUR STATE ATTORNEY HAS GIVEN TO OUR STAFF AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS. I AM NOT CONTENT TO LIVE WITH THIS DOUBLE STANDARD. WHILE WE WAIT FOR STATE AND FEDERAL RULES TO SHAKE OUT. WE ARE CONTINUING TO ARREST PEOPLE AND I THINK THE POINT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT EDUCATIONAL DIFFERENCES, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO A CODE OF CONDUCT AND YOU GET ARRESTED DOWN ON LAKE BRADFORD AFTER A FOOTBALL GAME, IF YOU ARE NOT IN SCHOOL OR NOT ON CAMPUS, IT DOES HAVE A HUGE DOUBLE STANDARD AND YOUR LIFE CAN BE CHANGED IN THAT ONE EVENT. SO, I AM NOT CONTENT WITH WHERE WE ARE AND I THINK IT IS INJUSTICE TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS WE ARE SEEING AND I DON’T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION BUT TO GO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND TRY TO HAVE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. LAST COMMENT HERE IS THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD INVITE THE STATES ATTORNEY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION BEFORE THE ORDINANCE. IT COULD BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT BUT I WOULD CONSIDER DELAYING THIS TO HEAR FROM THE STATES ATTORNEY AND OTHERS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>IT IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE AND TIMES ARE CHANGING FAST. FASTER FOR SOME THAN OTHERS BUT MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS OPTION IS THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER COUNTIES THAT WOULD BE RELYING ON THE STATE OF ATTORNEY TO ENFORCE OR COOPERATE WITH US AND I FEEL LIKE TO CREATE CIVIL PENALTIES, WE MAY BE SETTING UP AND WE HAVE 26 ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN OUR COUNTY THAT DON’T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER HOW THEY PERFORM SO THEY DO HAVE TO RELY ON THE COOPERATION OF STATE ATTORNEYS AND OTHER AGENCIES. IT IS KIND OF LIKE EXPRESSING SUPPORT AND I WANTED TO BE MORE MEANINGFUL THAN TO SAY I WANT TO DO THIS AND I HOPE OTHERS GO ALONG WITH IT. TO ME, I KNOW THINGS ARE CHANGING AND I HOPE THEY BEGIN TO ACT. I KNOW THAT IT’S WISHFUL TAKING IN A LARGE PART BUT AT THIS TIME, I FEEL LIKE I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE ALTERNATIVE FOR CIVIL PENALTIES BECAUSE I DON’T THINK IT WILL BE MEANINGFUL. I THINK IT WILL JUST BE A STATEMENT AT THAT POINT SO THAT IS WHERE I WOULD STAND AT THIS POINT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER MINOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER DESLOGE. >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I WILL BE BRIEF. I HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY WITH THE SHERIFF AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE CAPACITY AND HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO CAPACITY. IN THE PROSTHETICS OF US HAVING TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO HANDLE YOUR EMAIL OF TRAFFIC WE ARE HAVING IN AND OUT, WE ARE ALSO HAVING A NUMBER OF INMATES IN OUR FACILITY. LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, AND APTLY TAKES THE YOUNG MAN OR YOUNG WOMAN’S LIFE EARLIER THAT HAS LESS THAN 20 GRAMS AND IT CHARGES THEM WITH A CRIMINAL ACT. FOR THE MOST PART, SOMETIMES RUINING THEIR LIVES AND I CANNOT SIT HERE AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU’RE COMING FROM WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED AND EVEN THE STATE ATTORNEY TO THAT EXTENT, I STILL FEEL OBLIGATED FOR US TO DO OUR PART. I HAVE TO TAKE A STEP TO AT LEAST PUT THE OPTION OUT FOR THE MANAGER SO I STAND FIRMLY BEHIND THE MOTION BECAUSE OF IT AND IF IT FAILS, MY OPINION WILL CHANGE. IT IS TIME FOR US TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. THERE’S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE AND I DON’T THINK 20 GRAMS OR LESS IS THE MOST SERIOUS THING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I SUPPORT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ISSUE AND I’M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE AS A MEANS TO HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO DECRIMINALIZING OR SHIFTING TO CITATIONS BUT THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE WHICH HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP YET IS MARIJUANA USE BY TEENS AND YOUTH. I KNOW MAYBE THIS IS A SYMBOLIC GESTURE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO COMPLY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE WITH CIVIL CITATIONS BUT I DON’T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND I DON’T THINK NO ONE HERE DOES ON INCREASING ACCESS AMONG YOUTH AND TEENS. THE CDC STILL SAYS THAT USE OF MARIJUANA BY TEENS AND YOUTH HAS PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THEIR BRAIN DEVELOPMENT AND I DON’T WANT US TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AND TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE EXPOSING MORE KIDS TO MARIJUANA USE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I’M WILLING TO BET THAT THE MOTION COULD MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK IT IS WORTH DISCUSSING AT A FUTURE TIME. >> COMMISSIONER DESLOGE. >>THANK YOU. I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD REACH OUT AND ASK WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT NONE OF THEM ARE THERE JUST FOR MARIJUANA AND IT IS A COMBINATION AND WE WILL NEVER BE OLD TO TAKE THE DISCUSSION. THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE A CALL. A GETS OUT OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY. I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. NOT THAT I DON’T SEE THE INTENT BUT I THINK ME WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE STATE ATTORNEY AND THE SHERIFF. THIS IS A RESULT OF THAT. >>I WILL STICK WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER DOZIER. >>THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS A QUANTUM LEAP FOR THE STATE ATTORNEY TO ONLY 48 DAYS AGO WHILE WE WERE ON A BREAK, JULY 30, 2019 THAT IT SAYS THERE’S THIS INCREDIBLE LETTER FOR THE ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD ACROSS THE SECOND JUDICIAL CIRCUIT AND TO ALL OF THE PERSONS LISTED HERE AS SIGNATORIES ON THIS MEMORANDA OF UNDERSTANDING BY THE 20 AGENCIES AND THE POLICE CHIEFS AND SHERIFF’S OF ALL OF THESE COUNTIES THAT I HAVE BEFORE ME AND I AM SURE THIS LETTER WENT BEFORE THEM. OUR STATE ATTORNEY IS NOT SOFT. IT IS NOT A WEAKLING OR PASSIVE IN PROSECUTING. IN FACT, I WOULD DARE ARGUE THAT THEY STILL OVER PROSECUTE AND THAT IS THE PROSECUTION RATE THAT EXCEEDS THE ISSUES BY A LARGE AND THAT IS JUST WHO HE IS. WHEN HE ALLOWS HIS MIND TO STAND TALLER THAN HIS IDEOLOGY OR THE CONSENSUS, A GO SCIENTIFIC TO MAKE THESE STATEMENTS WITH CANNABIS AND THE EXTRACTS AND IF IT HAS THC CONCENTRATIONS. THE CURRENT POSTURE IS THAT NO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE LAND IN FLORIDA CAN DO THIS POSITIVE TESTING WHERE PRODUCTS LOOK AND SMELL EXACTLY LIKE MARIJUANA PRODUCTS. IT IS CLEAR THAT CANNABIS IS STILL ILLEGAL AND I INTEND TO ENFORCE LAWS AS WRITTEN. WHILE THIS HAS PLAYED A PRACTICAL FRUSTRATION, IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A PROBLEM. THIS IS THE LAST PAGE AND THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THE ITEM THAT BRINGS COMFORT TO MY EFFORTS TO MAKE THIS MOTION AS YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH. OUR STATE ATTORNEY SAYS TO CONCLUDE THAT THIS OFFICE WILL NO LONGER BE CHARGING PEOPLE WITH POSSESSION OF CANNABIS ABSENT A CONFESSION TO WHAT THE SUBSTANCE IS FOR TESTING BY LAND THAT CAN MEET OF WHAT WAS LAID OUT. THE STATE ATTORNEY SAID WE WILL ALSO NOT BE APPROVING SEARCH WARRANTS, OR OTHER LEGAL PROCESS BASED ON TRADITIONAL PREDICATES. THERE ARE PRESUMPTIVE TEST WITH THE SUBSTANCE AS CANNABIS. HE SAYS I WILL NOT BE ISSUING SEARCH WARRANTS OR OTHER LEGAL PROCESSES BASED ON TRADITIONAL PREDICATES. I KNOW THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE LAW AND WOULD CAUTION YOU IN MAKING ARRESTS ON THESE ISSUES. MY QUESTION IS WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY, ARE THEY IN CONTEMPT WITH THE LAW AND IF NOT, WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING WHICH IS A VERY COGNITIVE FUNCTION, CONSISTENT WITH THIS WRITING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS ON JULY 30, WE ARE TAKING A MEASURED STEP AS A STATE ATTORNEY IS SAYING AND IS NOT ISSUING THAT. YOU ARE LISTENING AND I ENCOURAGE YOU THAT WE DO NOT GET AHEAD OF THE STATE ATTORNEY. >> COMMISSIONER DOZIER AND THEN COMMISSIONER JACKSON. >>I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS AND I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK . WE CANNOT DECRIMINALIZE IT. THE LANGUAGE IS WRONG IN ALL OF THE ORDINANCES AND OTHER THINGS BY GOING JUST TO CIVIL PENALTIES. THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS HONED IN ON THE FEELING THAT I HAVE BEEN HAVING. WE HAVE TO DO OUR PART. THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO. GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST STATE AND NATIONALLY, I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS TO HAVE THAT OPTION ALTHOUGH I AM ALWAYS CONCERNED WITH DOING WORK AND STAFF TIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THIS IS WHERE YOU WERE KIND OF GOING, IF IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT. COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH DRAFTING THE ORDINANCE BUT HEAR FROM AS COMMISSIONER DESLOGE SUGGESTED, HEAR FROM OTHERS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD BE RECEPTIVE AND APPLIED IN THE JURISDICTION AND HAVE THAT TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION HERE BECAUSE WE MAY GET A LOT MORE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND DRAFTING THE ORDINANCES NOT MEAN IT IS DONE SO I THINK THAT WILL INVITE THOSE FOLKS TO BE HERE AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE STATES ATTORNEY ON IF NOT AN ORDINANCE, WHAT ELSE? THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. >>I EXCEPT THAT AS A STEP. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE AND THE VIEW HAS BEEN PROGRESSIVE. THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT IN FRONT OF HIM BUT I THINK IT IS A PRUDENT EFFORT AND I HOPE WE CAN GET A UNANIMOUS VOTE. >>ALL RIGHT. I WILL SAY THAT AS MENTIONED THERE ARE 1200 UNITS WITH THE FACILITY WITH POSSESSION AND I CAN SUPPORT THE OPTION. WITH THAT SAID, WE DO HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN AMENDED AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. ALL OPPOSED? >>I’M SORRY. >> FOR OPTION TWO. COMMISSIONER MADDOX SECOND AND . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. HERBERT THIELE >>ALL OPPOSED? COMMISSIONER THIELE. >>IT PASSES 4-3. I WANT TO RECORD THAT WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS COMING AFTER THE FACT AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY AROUND AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING TODAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT. MR. ADMINISTRATOR, NEXT ITEM UP.>> THANK YOU. MEASURES ITEM NUMBER 17, THIS IS APPLIED TO THE STATUS REPORT ON THE INCREASED INTEREST IN THE DEVELOPMENT WITH WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED AND IT SEEKS POLICY DIRECTION WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD WISHES TO CONSIDER ALLOWING THIS TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USE AND YOU WILL RECALL FROM THE BRIEFING SET THIS ITEM IS RELATED. IN TERMS OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW, THE BOARD OVER CALLED A RECENT DELIBERATION AND THE RESULTS OF WHICH WERE TOWARD MORE RESTRICTIVE LIMITATIONS OF LAND USED IN INTEREST OF WHAT WE GENERALLY REFER TO AS THE RURAL CHARACTER IN THE RURAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THE STATES RIGHT TO THE ACT, THERE IS A PROVISION WHICH EXPRESSLY ALLOWS AND EXEMPTS FROM LOCAL REGULATION WITH OPERATING FARMS WHICH EXISTED IN FARM FACILITIES FOR THE EVENT VENUES AS A SECONDARY USE. WITH THE POPULARITY OF THESE VENUES, SOME HAVE BUILT IN SOME CASES AND THE OPERATING VENUES IN SOME CASES HAVE CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES WHICH MAY NOT QUALIFY. THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU IS SIMPLY THAT THIS IS ON A TIME BASIS AND WHETHER THE BOARD WISHES TO FURTHER CONSIDER CHANGING AND DIRECTING STAFF TO A FRAMEWORK TO ALLOW THIS ACTIVITY OR TO CONTINUE AS IS WHICH IS THAT THIS IS A NON-ALLOWABLE USE IN THE ZONING CATEGORY. WITH THAT IS THE OVERVIEW AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE’RE UP TO SPEED ON THE ISSUE AND READY TO HANDLE THE NEXT ITEM BUT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE ARE RECEIVING TODAY AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. >>WE WILL LISTEN TO THE SPEAKERS . >>FIRST BEAKER IS PENNELL HALL. >>GOOD AFTERNOON. LONG TIME, NO SEEING. >>MY NAME IS PAMELA HALL. I ACTUALLY WOULD GO FOR OPTION ONE WITH THE STAFF REPORT THAT I THINK IS PRETTY CLEAR. IT STATES THAT WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED WHICH FULFILLS THE STATE REQUIREMENT, IT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE EXISTING CULTURAL FACILITIES AND YOU CAN HAVE OTHER USES. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO REMIND YOU, HOW DO I SAY THIS? WHEN I THINK THAT IS BEING ASKED TO BE CONSIDERED HERE IS TO ONCE AGAIN RECONSIDER WITH ALLOWING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE RURAL AREAS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR ARGUMENTS TO SAY THIS IS A SMALL THING BUT IT IS TO HAVE THE CULTURAL U. S. AND I DON’T CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE IT SITS, I DON’T KNOW IF I WILL BE HERE BUT I WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND I ASK HER TO KEEP IT RAINED IN. NONE OF YOU WERE HERE WHEN KEEP REAL CAME FORWARD BUT I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER WHAT WE ASKED FOR. IT WASN’T JUST THE GAS STATION. IT WAS ABOUT RECONSIDERING THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF RURAL AREAS AND THAT THEY PROVIDE US NOT JUST WITH THE PLEASURES OF HAVING SOMETHING TO LOOK AT BUT EVERY TIME, WE WOULD NEVER CALCULATE WHAT IT COST AND WE WOULD SAY THIS JUST A LITTLE HOTEL OR RESTAURANT AND IT WON’T MATTER BUT TO CHANGE IT FROM BEING THE INTENT OF RULE VERSUS ALLOWING COMMERCIAL BEGINS TO DESTROY WHAT THAT IS. THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS ALLOWED RURAL COMMUNITIES AND THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT PLACE WHERE THEY ENCOURAGE IT TO BE. THERE ARE FACILITIES THAT WANT TO ATTEND TO LOOK LIKE A FARM AND THAT IS FINE. THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT THAT LOOKS LIKE A BARN BUT IT IS A RESTAURANT. IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THE RURAL AREA. I AM NOT QUITE SURE WHY THIS IS A RISING EXCEPT THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE ABUSED THE AGRICULTURAL PERMITS. THE RULE OF LAW SHOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND IF THERE’S AN ARGUMENT TO CHANGE, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE CHANGE AND PROCEED. NOT JUST DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL AND ASKED TO BE FORGIVEN. PLEASE, I KNOW I’M THE ONLY PERSON STANDING HERE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET FOLKS TO PAY ATTENTION ON TWO WEEKS NOTICE AND MY HEALTH HAS NOT BEEN GREAT. I CANNOT CALL EVERYONE OVERNIGHT. SO, DO NOT PROCEED WITH THIS. RURAL AREAS ARE FOR RURAL USE AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER SPACES TO PUT AN EVENT FACILITY.>>I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE NOTED THAT YOU HAVE 25 EXTRA SECOND . IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> CHARLES GARDNER. >> PAM AND I GET ALONG WELL BUT WE DON’T ALWAYS AGREE. THIS IS ONE WHERE I HAVE TO ASK WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS? THERE IS A DEMAND FOR WEDDING VENUES IN LEON COUNTY AND THERE IS A LIMITED NUMBER OF THEM AND IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, IT WOULD HELP TO REGULATE ALL OF THE LIFE SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH WEALTH AND THE SIZE PERHAPS IN THE LOCATION. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND THERE IS A DEMAND. I PERSONALLY DON’T SEE THE HARM. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CLIENTS THAT DO THIS AND I’M ABOUT TO WRITE A CHECK TO A VENUE FOR MY LAST DAUGHTER TO GET MARRIED. I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, WHAT IS THE HARM? PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO OTHER COUNTIES TO GET MARRIED JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT A RURAL SETTING. AGRICULTURE INCLUDES TREES. ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE A CLASSIFICATION BECAUSE THEY ARE GROWING PINE TREES IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WILL COME THROUGH AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE A WEDDING VENUE OUT THERE OR A VENUE TO HOST MEETINGS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT. THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK, WHY DO PEOPLE JUST WANT TO GET MARRIED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE BUILDING OUT THERE? THEY CAN DO THAT IN FARM FAMILIES HAVE HAD WEDDINGS OUT ON FARM PROPERTIES FOR YEARS. GOING BACK GENERATIONS. THEY USE TO MARRY PEOPLE ON THE FARMS AND THEN WE HAD REGULATIONS ON CEMETERIES. THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORM A COMMITTEE AND WORK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS IN THE QUEUE TO SPEAK. >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WE HAVE HAD SO MUCH WORK AND SO MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT AND WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS FIVE YEARS AGO TO PASS WHAT I THINK IS A GREAT ORDINANCE WHICH IS PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES. I UNDERSTAND THAT OTHERS ARE MAKING A POPULAR TO HAVE MARK BARNES AS SORT OF DECOR AND FACILITY SET UP BUT OUT OF RESPECT TO THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE DID AND I THINK AT THAT TIME WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT THAT SOMETIME WE WILL GET SOMEONE SAYING BUT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE THING AND I THINK THIS IS STRICTLY COMMERCIAL THAT IS NOT REALLY AGRICULTURE AND STRICTLY JUST A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SO I AM NOT READY TO ABANDON KEEP IT REAL AND EVEN WITH THIS ONE TINY, PERHAPS TINY CHANGE AT THIS TIME SO I WOULD SUPPORT TAKING NO FURTHER ACTION. >> NEXT UP, COMMISSIONER DOZIER. >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I FIRST HAVE TO SAY THAT DR. HALL WHICH I DON’T THINK I HAVE EVER USED THAT PHRASE BEFORE BUT THE CHAIRMAN ALWAYS SAYS IT AND IT SOUNDS REALLY NICE. YOU ARE A VOLUNTEER AND REOPENING THIS WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT WERE PUT INTO COMING UP WITH WHAT WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL COMPROMISE, WE STARTED AND WE ENDED WITH SOMETHING THAT WE ALL FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT. YOU ALL DID PUT IN YOUR VOLUNTEER HOURS AND FOR THAT, I THINK THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. NOW I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU A LOT BUT I DO THINK THERE IS A NUANCE HERE AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I AM IN A VERY WEIRD POSITION HAVING LOOKED AT A WHOLE LOT OF WEDDING VENUES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND I HAVE BEEN ON EVERY SITE THAT THERE IS AND I’M NOT USING ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE IN THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW. I WILL PUT THAT OUT THERE. I WILL BE IN TOWN AND IN THE VICINITY. THIS IS — MR. GARDNER, YOU AND I DON’T ALWAYS AGREE EITHER BUT I THINK YOU DO MAKE A GOOD POINT. WE HAVE LOOKED AT PLACES AND TALK TO PEOPLE AND THE DRIVE TIME TO GET TO OTHER COUNTIES IS A REAL ISSUE. EITHER YOU ARE IN TOWN OR YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED SPACE AND THERE IS A DEMAND FOR THIS. YOU ARE RIGHT. ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU DID AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK AND I DON’T WANT THAT EITHER. YOU MENTIONED HOTELS AND IN ON BRIEFING, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS CATEGORY AND HOW WE MIGHT GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF LOOKING AT A CARD OUT FOR VENUE SPACE. WHAT TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS HAVE YOU CONTEMPLATED WITH THE ULTERIOR ROADS AND IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY OR THE LIMITED NUMBER OF DAYS OR THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THIS CATEGORY? CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? >>SURE. IF WE WANT TO GET THAT DIRECTION FROM YOU TONIGHT, AS WE NOTE IN THE ITEM, WE WOULD HAVE SOME STAKEHOLDERS AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WHICH WOULD DEAL WITH INTENSITY AND WE ARTICULATE THE ITEMS WITH HOURS OF OPERATIONS AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU. AGAIN, IF THAT IS YOUR DIRECTION , THAT IS THE TYPE OF ANALYSIS WE WILL BE CONDUCTING. >>THANK YOU FOR THAT. TO GET MORE SPECIFIC, YOU TRAINED AS WELL AND HOW RESTRICTIVE COULD AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS BE SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR EVENT PLACES THAT WOULD RESTRICT OTHER TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USE SUCH AS RESTAURANTS, HOTELS OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT? DO YOU THINK THERE IS A DIVIDER LINE? COULD IT BE THREE DAYS A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT? >>I WILL DEFER TO HERB ON THAT. >>THE ANSWER IS YES. I THINK WE COULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. >>CAN WE LOOK AT RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS FOR THE PURPOSES OF DEVELOPMENT MEETING YOU HAVE AN EXISTING 10 ACRES WERE FIVE ACRES AND THEN YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO DO THE EVENT SPACE BUT YOU ARE NOT COMING TO US FOR COMMERCIAL USE? IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN DO? >>I THINK SO. WITH THE ACCESS POINTS , WE CAN RESTRICT AND PARKING WILL ALWAYS BE AN ISSUE AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME FORM OF GRAVEL AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE AVAILABLE. >>THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A PRETTY TIGHT TIMELINE HERE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER ALL LEADING UP TO NEXT SUMMER. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME MAY DESIRE THAT WE MOVE QUICKLY WITH THIS. IF WE LOOKED AT THOSE ISSUES AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF ABOUT HOW THIS COULD LOOK BEFORE WE GET TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND OTHERS, WITH THAT DRAMATICALLY DELAY AND MOVE INTO THE FALL CYCLE? >>ACTUALLY, WHILE IT IS NOT INDICATED ON THAT LIST, PRIOR TO INITIATING ANY PROCESS THAT WE COME BACK TO WITH THAT AND WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. >>OKAY. WITH ALL THOSE CAVEATS THAT I WANT TO BE AS CAREFUL AS MY FRIEND PAM WAS EVEN THOUGH SHE IS WANT ME TO DO WHAT I’M ABOUT TO DO, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO BRING US BACK IN ITEM WITH THE DRAFTED AMENDMENT AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND THE CONCERNS THAT WE KNOW EXISTS WITHIN THE KEEP IT REAL GROUP. I DON’T WANT TO INITIATE THE FULL PROCESS. I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO BRING THE ITEM BACK AND AT THAT TIME WE DECIDE WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. >>SUBSTITUTE MOTION? >>YES BUT IT IS NOT A OPTION TWO. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? >> WE UNDERSTAND THAT MOTION. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> COMMISSIONER MINOR AND COMMISSIONER DESLOGE. >>THANK YOU. I WAS NOT HERE FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN YOU WORKED ON THE RURAL ZONING AND I HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT SINCE THEN. I THINK WITH ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE, I WANT TO RETAIN THE AND I THINK WITH SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE LIGHTS AND NOISE AND TRAFFIC AND THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES IN TERMS OF THAT. I WOULD MAINTAIN OPTION ONE. >>THANK YOU , COMMISSIONER MINOR. COMMISSIONER DESLOGE? >>IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CLEARLY, YOU HAVE ONE THAT WILL FOLLOW THIS WHICH IS KIND OF AN ADD-ON BUT EVEN TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER WILL NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. I GO WITH STAFF’S RECOMMENDATION AND I THINK TO MYSELF THAT IT PRETTY MUCH ALLOWS A LOT OF STUFF TO GO ON AND IF THEY ARE ALREADY OUT IN THE RURAL AREA AND THEY WANT TO DO THIS, THAT IS OKAY. OTHER THAN THE ONE BEHIND, I DON’T KNOW IF WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE SAYING WE WANT TO DO THIS AND IF THERE’S A BIG CALL OUT THERE FOR THIS TYPE OF VENUE AND I THINK IT CREATES WORK AND THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT I GOT PUT INTO THAT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED AND I DON’T SEE A HUMAN CRIME. I THINK THEY CAME UP AND THEY SIMPLY HAD SOME KIND OF INSTITUTION AND EVEN IF YOU STARTED SOMETHING TO LOOK LIKE A FARM TO MEET THE GUIDELINES, I WILL STICK WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >>WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MADDOX AND THEN COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER DOZIER AGAIN. >> JUST REALLY QUICK, THERE ARE NOT MANY TIMES THAT I DON’T ASK AND DON’T DO WHAT YOU ASKED ME BUT I WILL HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY WITH ALSO RESPECTED TRYING TO ACHIEVE OUR ORDINANCE AND I THINK IT CREATES SOMETHING AND KEEPING THAT, WE ALL WANT TO KEEP WITHIN OUR RURAL AREA. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER DOZIER. >>MR. CHAIRMAN, I SHOULD NOT TELL A LIE. COMMISSIONER DOZIER TUGGED ON MY HEARTSTRINGS AND SAID THAT SHE WAS LOOKING AROUND FOR WEDDING VENUES AND THAT REALLY MESSED ME UP. I IMMEDIATELY REMEMBERED THAT MY DAUGHTER HAD AN EPIPHANY IN COLLEGE AND SAID, “DADDY, I DECIDED THAT MY WEDDING DRESS WON’T COST OVER $3000.” WHAT FRESHMAN CALLS YOU TO ANNOUNCE A MY WEDDING DRESS WILL NOT COST OVER $3000? I SAID I WAS HOPING THAT THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE AROUND $3000 BUT THE DRESS? SO EMPATHIZING WITH COMMISSIONER DOZIER AS SHE IS WALKING DOWN — WHAT YOU CALL THAT? >>YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ANYTHING. >>OKAY. I FEEL THE VIBE AND IT JUST TOUCHED ME. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF THOUGHT IN THIS ONE RIGHT HERE WHICH IS THE FEELING AND I THINK WITH WHERE SHE IS RELATIVE IN LIFE TO SENTIMENTAL STUFF AND NOT HAVING TO DRIVE FAR, I HOPE MY DAUGHTER WILL WANT TO GET MARRIED HERE AND I WANT TO KEEP SOME OPTIONS OPEN SO THAT IS WHY I WILL SUPPORT IT. >> COMMISSIONER DOZIER? >> ARE NOTICEABLY HOW YOU WILL GET THERE TO SUPPORT BUT YOU HAVE FOUR VOTES AND FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR, IT WAS REFERENCED A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES IN THE RURAL AREA MET THE REQUIREMENTS BUT FOR A MAJORITY OF WHAT WE SEE WITH OTHERS, THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE THEY EXISTED FOR THE COMPANY RULES WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS. >> THOSE WHO MEET. >> ONE LAST QUESTION, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ATTEMPT BUT WE DID DISCUSS TOURISM. SOMEONE WHO SET UP A SPOT WHERE YOU CAN DO KAYAKS AND IS ABOUT TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT IS STILL RESTRICTED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT, CORRECT? >> MARY IS ON DECK WAITING TO ANSWER THIS LEVEL. THAT WILL HAVE THE PLANNING WITH THE DEPARTMENT NOW. >> WHILE WE DID CONCENTRATE COMMERCIAL USES, THAT WERE IN THE CULTURAL USES WITH PRIMARY INTERSECTIONS OF VOLUNTEERS, IF YOU HAVE THE TOURISM USE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DOWN SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE TO BE LOCATED. >>YOU SENT A COUPLE OF YEARS ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE IT AND I’M GLAD YOU ARE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. AND I REMEMBER THE TOURISM PIECE AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS WITH THE RIVER EXAMPLE WHICH IS PERFECT. THERE IS SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE. IT IS A VERY SMALL CATEGORY AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THANKS. >>WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO COME BACK WITH A DRAFT AMENDMENT AND IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. ON FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. COMMISSIONER THIELE >> ALL OPPOSE? COMMISSIONER THIELE >>IT IS 4- 3. MOTION PASSES. MOTION FAILS, SORRY. WE HAVE OPTION ONE AND THAT IS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALLED TO VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. COMMISSIONER THIELE >>OPPOSE? COMMISSIONER THIELE >>IT WILL BE 3-4. >>GOOD LUCK. >>I REMEMBER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >>SECOND. >> NUMBER 18. THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAD A SPEAKER. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS AND THE FIRST SPEAKER, CHARLES GARDNER.>>YOU MAY ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD EVEN IF YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE IT ONCE. >>BEFORE I START MY THREE MINUTES, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU JUST DID? >>I WILL START A PETITION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH A DEDICATORY ACTION. >>THAT IS WHAT THIS ITEM IS. >> STATUS QUO. >>I DON’T FEEL VERY OPTIMISTIC BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO AVOID TO WHAT SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS A HAILSTORM. THERE ARE DAUGHTERS I HAVE SCHEDULED WEDDINGS AND WE THINK IT IS A SAFE VENUE. HAS BEEN HOSTING WEDDINGS SINCE APRIL OF 2018. AT MY DIRECTION, THERE ARE NOT ANY MORE EVENTS AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND AVOID A LAWSUIT WITH BOTH THE EXPENSE AND THE TIME AND YOU TRY TO HAMMER OUT A SETTLEMENT THAT ALLOWS THESE EVENTS TO TAKE PLACE AS LONG AS THE HEALTH WELFARE AND SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE ATTENDING 40. I THINK WE CAN CRAFT A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT MAKE SURE NOBODY GETS HURT AND MAKE SURE THE WATER IS SAFE TO DRINK AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF BATHROOMS. I DON’T THINK WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUILDING COLLAPSING ON PEOPLE BUT WE CAN HAVE POLICEMAN OUT THERE AND DEPUTIES AND FIREMEN. WHATEVER THE COUNTY REQUIRES BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HONOR THESE CONTRACTS AND I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS AND I HAD FOUR DAUGHTERS GET MARRIED AND I KNOW THE STRESS LEVEL AND I KNOW THINGS YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE COUNTY. >> WHAT IS THE LAST DAY OR THE LAST EVENT? >> I THINK THEY ARE BOOKED IN THE SPRING. NO MORE OR BEING BOOKED. THEY ARE OUT THERE AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH OF THESE VENUES THAT PROVIDE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE. >>MAY ASK A QUESTION, ALSO? I HEAR WHAT YOU’RE SAYING AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO WORK THIS OUT BUT WHY HAVE YOUR CLIENTS NOT TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE AND THE VIOLATIONS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING OVER AND OVER WITH THEM? >> I’M JUST NOT INVOLVED AND I TOLD MY CLIENT THAT YOU MAY NEED PREACHER. I THINK WE CAN WORK IT OUT. AND I’M WILLING TO MAKE SURE NO ONE GETS HURT AND THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIMARY CONCERN. I’M WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO HELP EVERYONE GET OUT OF THIS MESS. >> WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE? >>PROBABLY THIS SATURDAY. >>THE NEXT WEEK OR IS PUMA WHOLE. >> PAMELA HALL, 5051 MILTON ROAD. THANK YOU FOR THE PREVIOUS VOTE. I AGREE AND I THINK THIS IS RELATIVE BUT WITH FOLKS THAT DO THIS, I CAN UNDERSTAND AND IT IS CONFUSING BUT THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS CALL UP STAFF AND SAY I’M TRYING TO INTERPRET THIS. STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU AND WHEN THINGS ARE AMBIGUOUS, THEY WILL REALLY WORK WITH YOU. APPARENTLY, WHEN THEY BUILT THIS FACILITY, IT IS PRETTY CLEARLY THAT A CAN’T BE A STANDARD FACILITY AND HAS TO HAVE, IT CANNOT BE CONSTRUCTION WITH THE FACILITIES AND ACCOMMODATE MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR WEDDINGS OR PARTIES OR WHATEVER. I THINK THERE IS SOME WILLFUL IGNORANCE GOING ON AND THAT IS PROBABLY WHY THEY HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD WISH TO HAVE WHAT I SUSPECT IS A PLEASANT PLACE. THIS COUNTY HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF LAND AND IT LOOKS JUST LIKE RURAL IN MANY PLACES AND YOU CAN BUILD FACILITIES THERE. IT HAS RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SUBSTANTIAL FRINGES AND THIS WOULD APPEAR TO BE A REALLY GOOD ECONOMIC ADDITION. THERE IS ROTATIONS TO PUT AND THAT IS WHERE IT SHOULD GO. SO, I FEEL FOR SOME THE PEOPLE AND MY SUSPICION IS THEY HAVE MOVED IT. I HOPE YOU GUYS RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION. PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR FORGIVENESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>WE HAVE A FEW IN MIND. COMMISSIONER MINOR. COMMISSIONER DOZIER, COMMISSIONER MADDOX AND THEN COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >> WE KNOW WITH THE VIOLATION THAT IF WE DON’T TAKE ACTION, IF WE DO NOT ENFORCE THE LAW NOW, WHAT DO WE SAY TO THE FULL SEMI, AFTER WITH THE SAME CODE THAT THIS ORGANIZATION IS? IS THERE WAY TO NAVIGATE THOSE WATERS SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT LIABILITY AND ALLOW THIS TO GO FORWARD. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO FIND MIDDLE GROUND TO STILL ALLOW THESE PARTIES TO CONTINUE.>>IN LIGHT OF THE VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 17, THIS IS NOT AN ALLOWABLE USE. ONCE THAT IS DETERMINED, EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS AND I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE ALL THOSE OTHER LIFE SAFETY CODE ISSUES BUT IF THAT IS NOT TO USE THAT YOU WILL ALLOW ANYHOW. I HAVE VERY LITTLE HOPE THAT THERE IS A PATH TO DO THAT. >> I WAS JUST GRASPING AT STRAWS AND TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING >>OKAY, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DOZIER? >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAD TO SMILE AT THAT ONE BECAUSE THE SOLUTION IS THE PREVIOUS ITEM. THAT IS IN MY MIND THE ONLY WAY TO ALLOW A FACILITY LIKE THIS TO OPERATE IF THEY DON’T HAVE PROVISIONS. I WILL NOT BELIEVE ARE THE POINT WITH COMMENTS FROM A GOOD COLLEGE HERE BUT I WOULD BE TERRIFIED IF I HAD A BRICK A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW, FOR SURE. I FEEL HORRIBLE FOR THOSE FOLKS BUT MS. GARNER, IT IS NOT JUST THAT BUT THE ISSUES WITH THE SUPPORT BEAMS. THE BUILDING FOR OCCUPANCY, EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU NEED A BUILDING PERMIT AND RIGHT UP FRONT TO EVERY CONTRACTOR AND PERSON WHO HAS BUILT A HOUSE FOR A BUSINESS, I DON’T SEE HOW WE CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE TO GO WITH OPTION ONE BECAUSE THIS WAS MORE THAN WILLFUL. I WILL ADMIT THAT IN THE BRIEFING, I SAID THIS ONE MAY LOOK DIFFERENT TO THE WIDER COMMUNITY AND IN THE FACILITY, THE SHUTDOWN FACILITY THAT IS SO GREAT AND SEMI-PEOPLE LOVE. I’M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE ISSUE OR NOT BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. IF THERE’S A FIRE IN THE BUILDING, IT IS A PROBLEM FOR ALL OF US. I THINK WE HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND DO THIS. IN LIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS VOTE, IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE PROVISION FOR PEOPLE WHO DON’T HAVE AD ON THEIR PROPERTY, THE ONLY THING IT SEEMS LIKE THEY CAN DO IS LOOK AT THE USE IF THEY CHOOSE AND CIRCLE BACK GREATER IF THEY GET THAT EXEMPTION FROM THE STATE. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD OPERATE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE AND GET THE EXEMPTION WITH THE PROBLEMS WITH THE BUILDING. >> THAT IS CORRECT BUT THEN THEY COULD CIRCLE BACK. THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE STATE. >>THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US FOR A BUILDING PERMIT OUTSIDE OF A BARN. IS THAT RIGHT? >>THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM ALL LOCAL REGULATIONS. >>THEY DON’T HAVE TO HAVE A SPRINKLE FACILITY IF IT IS THE TYPE OF FACILITY OR WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE SPRINKLERS FOR HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE UNDER THE ITEM EXEMPTION? NOT UNDER ARE QUOTE BUT STATE BUILDING CODE. OKAY, THAT IS A VERY INTERESTING POINT TO ME AND I WILL GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE MOTION. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I KNOW THEY ADVISE AGAINST SOME KIND OF APPLIANCE AGREEMENT WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE BACK AROUND. I KNOW IT WOULD BE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU CAN OPERATE ANYMORE. I DON’T KNOW IF THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE ITEM BUT I DON’T KNOW IF THE OWNER WILL WANT TO DO THAT. THEY WILL BE MORE UPFRONT AND THEN THEY WILL SAY YOU ARE SHUTDOWN. THAT IS AN OPTION BUT I’M NOT SURE IF IT IS GETTING A LOT OF TRACTION. >> I HAVE LEARNED TO DO BETTER AND IT IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE EVEN IF THEY DIDN’T KNOW ANY BETTER, THEY WOULD FIND THAT BETTER AT THIS POINT SO WHAT DO YOU DO? I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS AND I KNOW WHAT KIND OF ANGUISH THIS WILL CAUSE FOLKS TO KNOW YOU CAN NO LONGER HAVE AN EVENT AT THE VENUE. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WANT TO HAVE A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY INTO MAKING THAT READY IN A RELATIVELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE OPEN UNTIL THE END OF 2020. I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY INDICATION THAT IT IS CHANGING WHERE THAT IS AND THE ONLY THING I THOUGHT OF WAS THE RECONSIDERATION OF THE VOTE BUT I AM NOT SURE IT WILL PASS. I HATE TO DO IT AND I WISH WE COULD’VE GONE ABOUT THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND I WISH THE LANDOWNER WOULD HAVE ASKED A FEW MORE QUESTIONS PRIOR AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL BUT NOW THAT WILL SIMPLY HAVE TO GO AWAY SO I HAVE TO SUPPORT AND THIS IS ONE OF THE HARDEST MOTIONS I HAVE HAD TO MAKE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THOSE EVENTS BUT IF THE MOTION PASSED, THERE IS NO ROADMAP SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >>ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION, WHAT IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE? WHAT IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE? >>TODAY. >> I WILL MAKE A SEXIST COMMENT SPEAKING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE, I CAN IMAGINE THEM GOING THROUGH AND HOW HARD IT IS AND THEY HAVE SOME GIRLS IN A MAMA THAT CAN BE HELD TO PAY THE COMMUNITY. THEN, THE MODEL OR THE MODERATOR OF THE PERNA BAPTIST CHURCH OFF OF GEORGIA IS SITTING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOWEVER YOU CAN HAVE IT, IN TODAY’S TIME, IT IS HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO MARRY. IF PEOPLE FOUND A SITE, THAT MIGHT BE THE MAGIC SPOT. I DON’T KNOW ANY OTHER VENUE IN TOWN BUT THAT IS A MAJOR THING. WHAT BOTHERS ME A LOT AND WHAT COMMISSIONER DOZIER WAS GETTING AT IS THAT WE SAW SOME PEOPLE FILE A LAWSUIT OVER THREE TREES AND NOBODY SPOKE UP FOR THE PEOPLE OR THE HOUSES OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY SHOWED OUT FOR CENTURIES. IT IS AMAZING AND I HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES TALK ABOUT THE CULTURE AND THE RURAL CULTURE AND THIS AND THAT. TALLAHASSEE THINKS OF THE TREES AND WITH THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, WHO WOULD’VE THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO ENJOY SO MUCH SO THAT THEY WANT TO GET MARRIED IN THE SERENE SPACE. WE CONTRADICT OURSELVES WITH PEOPLE’S LIVES. PEOPLE WANT TO GO OUT FOR TWO HOURS AND ELDER PRICE, THEY HAVE MORE THAN THREE HOURS JUST DEPENDING ON HOW GOOD IT IS BUT JUST FOR ONE LIFE MEMORY. WHY CAN’T PEOPLE GET MAD AT THIS PLACE AND WHAT REPRESENTS TALLAHASSEE AND MAKES IT SO GREAT? WE CONTRADICT OUR OWN STATEMENTS AND I THINK THAT WE GO AGAINST THE BEAUTY THAT WHICH NATURE GIVES AN ABUNDANCE TO US BUT WE DON’T WANT ANYONE TO GET MARRIED IN THAT SPLENDOR OR THAT BEAUTY. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION WITH THE ITEM 3 AND I WANT PEOPLE HAVE A HOLISTIC EXPERIENCE. AND I KNOW, I’M NOT SURE WHAT THE SETTING WILL BE BUT THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF BEAUTY AND WITH A BRIDE WANTING TO BE MARRIED SHOULD BE ANYPLACE. IT FELT LIKE A MARIJUANA HOUSE. IT IS NOT A PLACE OF REPUTE BUT A PLACE WHERE A PRIEST WILL BE AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT. WHY CAN’T WE EXTEND AND WE WANT THAT TO OCCUR. I WISH THAT WE WOULD RETHINK AND RECOGNIZE HOW HE IS A SKILLED NEGOTIATOR. OVER THE YEARS I HAVE RESPECTED HIS OFFER AND I’M THINKING THERE IS A WAY TO REVISIT AND RETHINK THE OFFER TO DO THAT WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM THAT THIS MOTION WOULD GIVE LATITUDE TO THAT AND EVEN IF WE NEEDED TO BRING BACK 17 FOR THE REVIEW , I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD DENY THE SPLENDOR TO BE A PART OF THE WEDDING BACKGROUND WITH PREACHERS AND DEACONS AND MOTHERS AT A CHURCH STANDING AROUND. I DON’T GET WHAT WE DID WRONG AND WHAT WE ARE DOING WRONG IS THAT WE ARE DENYING OUR OWN BRAND TO BE EXTENDED AND MY MOTION IS THAT WE WILL ALLOW FOR A COMMUNITY TO EAT LUNCH AND DINNER AGAIN AND WORK THIS OUT. THIS IS A SITUATION THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE AND THAT IS WITH LATITUDE TO DO. THAT IS MY MOTION. WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS AND RECTIFY THIS AND LET THE SITUATION MOVE FORWARD. >> SO, WE WILL REFER TO OPTION ONE. WHICH WAS MOVED BY THE COMMISSIONER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MADDOX. BEFORE WE VOTE AS COMMISSIONER MADDOX MADE THE MOTION, WHO IS NOT SECONDED BY? ALL RIGHT, LISTEN, OUR ROLE IS NOT AN EASY THING BUT OUR ROLE IS SAFETY AND IF THERE IS A DESIGN FOR THE SUBJECT TANK AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND YOU HAVE 600 PEOPLE SHOWING UP AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE KNOW THAT WE WILL WORK IT OUT. I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING LET’S FIGURE IT OUT. IT WILL BE ON US AND SAFETY AND WELFARE, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES SO WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT. >> SEEING OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON-Q TO SPEAK, I WILL MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. BASED ON THE PREVIOUS, I THINK WE HAD NO CHOICE PERSONAL WEIGHT FOR THE OPTION. WITH THAT SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SECOND SAY I. COMMISSIONER THIELE >>OPPOSE? >>MOTION PASSES. >> I’M WONDERING IF IT IS POSSIBLE AND I KNOW AND I’M WONDERING IF THE IDEA OF PUTTING TOGETHER AN IDEA TO TALK ABOUT IF THIS CAN EVEN WORK IN ANY CAPACITY AND WHAT THE LIMITATIONS WILL BE THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE BETWEEN PEOPLE AND TO MAY HAVE INTEREST IN THIS. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO GO DOWN AND I’M NOT TRYING TO FORCE IT BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER DOZIER SAID IT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THIS MENU AND ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT AND IT WAS EVIDENT. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL VENUE THAT HAD SOME VALUE TO IT. I’M AT LEAST WONDERING IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE WITH FOLKS TO SIT DOWN AND TRY TO TALK ABOUT IT BUT THAT WAS JUST MY THOUGHT. I JUST AM LOOKING AT THIS AND KNOWING THE POSITION AND I KNOW WE SHOULD HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FIRST BUT IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATIONOR DO WE LET IT STAY. >>WOULD YOU LIKE TO DETERMINE THAT? >> EVEN IF YOU WERE TO RECONSIDER, IT WILL TAKE PLACE BEFORE ALL THESE EVENTS WILL HAVE TAKEN PLACE. >>IT WILL NOT FIX NO MATTER WHAT. >>THAT IS SALE BUT I’M TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. >>YOU CAN DO THAT BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO DO THAT UNDER SOME SORT OF RECONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM 17 VOTE. YOU VOTED NO. >>I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND ASK FOR A GROUP OF CITIZENS TO COME TOGETHER AND DISCUSS THIS AND BRING THE ITEM BACK WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS. >>I WILL HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION HERE. IS COMMISSIONER MADDOX ON THE PREVAILING SIDE? HE CANNOT MAKE THAT MOTION. >> LET ME MAKE A NUANCE ON THIS. IT DOESN’T MEAN YOU CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF MEETING OF MINDS AND THEN IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE DONE, YOU CAN COME BACK AND CONSIDER. HOW ABOUT THAT? IT IS A TIMING ISSUE. >>IT IS 5:00 AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS. THE MOTION WAS NOT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO DRAFT AN AGENDA ITEM COME BACK SO THAT WE CAN GET AND PUT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE CONSIDERED AND TALKED ABOUT FOR A WHILE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE DISCUSSION TIME IF WE WANT TO MOVE ON, THAT’S JUST MY SUGGESTION UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN THAT I WAS ON THE FEELING SIDE AS WELL BUT THAT WAS WHAT MY HOPE WAS BECAUSE I SEE NO WAY TO NOT SHUTDOWN AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE BILLING ISSUES AND THE ONLY OPTION WILL BE OUT OF EXEMPTION TO DO THAT. THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS NOT AGENDA. >> IN ATTEMPT TO GET THE EXEMPTION AT THIS POINT. >> WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS THE RIGHT LANGUAGE. RIGHT TO FORM. >>BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, WE DON’T KNOW THAT WE HAVE NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER ABOUT THIS AND I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM A SINGLE BRIDE OR GROOM ON THIS SO I THINK WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE HYPERACTIVE ABOUT THAT. THEY CAN TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION NOW IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT AND WE HAVE SAID NO FOR THE TIME BEING BUT THEY CAN COME BACK. IF THEY GET THROUGH THE STATE, THEY CAN DO THAT. >> WHAT I’M SAYING IS 19. I SEE THAT AND YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL CHARACTER THAT IS PROVIDE VALUE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE AND IF THERE IS A WAY THAT OUR FOLKS CAN SIT DOWN, I COULD BE RIGHT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND IF YOU HAVE THAT STUFF IN PLACE FOR THAT KIND TO HAPPEN, I’M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT URBAN BUT I DON’T SEE ANYTHING WRONG, IF THEY CAN’T AND THEY CAN’T BUT TO HAVE SOMETHING OUT THERE IS A GOOD THING. WE HAVE 40 EVENTS BOOKED FROM NOW UNTIL SPRING OF 2020. I WOULD SAY THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. IF THAT IS WASTING TIME, I CANNOT MAKE A MOTION BUT I WANT TO PUT OUT TO SEE WHERE THEY HAVE MERIT TO EVEN SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT. IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA ANYWAY. >>WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. >> I CHECKED IN AND HE INDICATED THAT WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THE CONVERSATION IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LINING UP WEDDINGS NOW, THE MAJORITY OUR CURRENT OUTSIDE OF CHURCH VENUES SO THE TREND HAPPENS TO BE THAT GOING TO THE CHURCH IS NOT NECESSARILY A PRIMARY FOCUS IN MANY AREAS. I HATE TO THINK THAT KEEP IT REAL IS AGAINST WEDDINGS. I THINK THE COMMISSIONER SAYS THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN INTELLIGENTLY COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE AND THE THOUGHTS OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH REGARD TO MARRIAGE AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN , THAT IS NOT SINGULAR BUT FOR THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE AND PEOPLE GET MARRIED AND AND THAT IS NOT LIKE YOU NEED A LICENSE TO GO. I DON’T SEE THAT IN THE PUBLIC POLICY AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO SAY I DO. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? >>WE CAN ALSO REDO THIS. >>THANK YOU FOR COMING . I THINK IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON IN THE AGENDA. >>THANK YOU. WE SEE THE COUNCIL AND THEY ARE REQUESTING FUNDING OF 20,000 EACH FOR THE CITY IN THE COUNTY WITH ALL COMMISSIONERS TO INCREASE $5000 FROM THE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL AND THAT WAS APPROVED IN FY 19. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COUNCIL , THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY COUNTY FOR THE HOUSING WORKER AND THAT WAS ARTICULATED IN THE ITEM AND THE STAFF AS WELL AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. COMMISSIONER DOZIER IS IN QUEUE. >>THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS AND I AM THRILLED THAT WE ARE HERE AND WE HAVE MADE SO MUCH PROGRESS AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT POSTURE SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THIS IS A REAL TURNING POINT SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. COMMISSIONER THIELE TRAN 20 >>IT PASSES. NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 20. WE WILL POWER THROUGH TO GET TO ITEM 24 WHICH IS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. >> A BREAK WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. I WILL JUST ASK IF WE COULD HAVE THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS BEFORE WE BREAK BUT IT MIGHT GO QUICK. IF WE JUST NEED TO SAY SOMETHING . >> WE HOPE TO BE OUT OF HERE BY 5:30. >>THIS CAN BE VERY QUICK. WE HAVE EXISTING MAINTENANCE. >>MADE BY COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER DESLOGE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. TRAN 20 MOTION PASSES. >> ITEM 21. >> I HAVE BRIEF YOU ALL EXTENSIVELY WITH THIS ITEM WITH THE STATUS UPDATE UPON THE LANDFILL CLOSURE PROJECT TO TERMINATE THE LANDFILL CLOSURE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL CORPORATION TO REBID THE LANDFILL CLOSURE WITH DESIGN MODIFICATIONS. . CO >> SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. MOTION PASSES. ITEM 22, MR. ADMINISTRATOR. >>THAT BRINGS US TO APPROVAL OF APPOINTMENTS AND WITH THE RDA, A COMMITTEE WHICH IS REFLECTED IN OPTION A AND B. >>MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MADDOX . COMMISSIONER DOZIER PRIOR TO SPEAK . >>THANK YOU. THANK YOU THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE FOR THE GOOD WORK AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SAY THAT OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND IF YOU GET AN INVITATION TO THE RIBBON- CUTTING AVENUE OFFICE, THEY HAVE ALSO SPACE THAT IS THE OCCUPIED AND WOULD ALL LOVE FOR YOU TO SEE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. >>WE ARE ALSO HAVING COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. >>WHAT BACKGROUND WOULD REPRESENT THE CATEGORY. >> WE HAVE WORKS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE DIVISION. IT BRINGS UP A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ARENA. I BELIEVE FROM THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE THAT IT WAS THE BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. >>I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND THINKING BROADER. I KNOW THE ACTIVITIES IN THE BUILDING WITH RESPECT TO THE NEW GATEWAY ON THE PROPERTIES THERE, THE NEW GATEWAY WITH FLORIDA STATE BEING IN THIS PARTICULAR BOARD POSES A POTENTIAL CONFIDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS WHY I WAS RAISING THIS ISSUE UP AND IT HAD BEEN VETTED AND I MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE RIGHT WORDS BUT THEY ARE WORKING IN THE AREA OF PROPOSITION AND I’M NOT SURE WHAT ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE INFLUENCED BY. THAT IS WHY I LOOKED THAT OUT. >> JUST AS A PUBLIC ENTITY TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY DID DO THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO BE BEFORE THE RCD LA AND THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE CONVERSATION. >>THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING REPS AT THAT TIME. THAT IS OUTSIDE OF CONTEXT BUT IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED AND WITH THE HIGHER PARTNERS, IT HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER. I HOPE THAT HELPS CLARIFY THINGS BUT THAT WAS SUPPORTED AND THEY ARE NOT ENDORSING BUT THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD BECAUSE THAT WAS BEFORE WE WENT INTO THE COMMITTEE. >>THEY SHOULD NOT BE AN IMBALANCE WERE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE AS BEING ON THE BOARD AND I KNOW THAT WHAT IS THE PROPOSITION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SETTING UP. >> IF I HEARD THE CORRECTION, IT WAS ONE. OPTION TWO IS REQUIRED. >>MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >>I. >>MOTION PASSES. MOVING ONTO IT AND ITEM 23. >> THIS IS FOR FULL BOARD CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS A BOARD REPRESENTATIVE AND WE PRESENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS AND OPTIONS.>>SECOND. >> MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOZIER. >>WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? >>AFTER. >>SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. OPPOSED BY THE SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOTIFY THE BOARD TASK THAT THE BOARD APPOINTS ANOTHER COMMISSIONER. >>ANOTHER COMMISSIONER? >> WHO MAKES THAT? >>THAT IS BOARD APPOINTMENT. >>I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO THE PROCESS IN THE PAST AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO THAT. >>DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? >>SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. TRAN 20 >>OPPOSE? IT PASSES. NEXT UP WE HAVE AND AND ITEM NUMBER 24. >>THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO THE BOARD DISCUSSION AND ITEM PRESENTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WITH ONE MEMBER AND FOR THE CHAIRMAN TO HAVE A COMMISSIONER TO SERVE AS THE ALTERNATE MEMBER WITH OPTIONS ONE AND TWO WITH ELIGIBLE COMMISSIONERS. >> IS A SLIGHT BEING A JUDGE? >>PLEASE NOTE THAT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ADHERE TO THE EXPECTATIONS WITH NEXT YEAR’S ELECTION. I COULD NOT SERVE. >> I THINK THAT IS CORRECT AND COMMISSIONER MATTIX WAS ON THE ORIGINAL. >>I DID . IF YOU NEED ME TO, I WILL SERVE AGAIN. >> SO, WHAT DO WE DO AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER MADDOX OR ENTERTAIN VOLUNTEERS. >>YOU ARE ELIGIBLE. >>I THINK THE OPTION WE WILL GO WITH IS OPTION ONE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER MADDOX WITH ALL THE HOURS HE HAS SPENT WITH THE PAST ELECTION AND AS AN ALTERNATE, WE HAVE A GRACIOUS VOLUNTEER. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER MADDOX . SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >>I. >>OPPOSE BY SAME SIGN. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I WILL JOIN YOUR ATTENTION TO A REPLACEMENT ITEM WE HAD ABOUT 12 MINUTES TO LOOK AT ITEM 28. >> AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS AN ADD-ON ITEM AND HAS A REPORT ON THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED COMMUNITY SPACE AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER ON MERIDIAN STREET WITH OPERATING GUIDELINES. WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AS WE HAVE A RIBBON- CUTTING AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS OF GREAT INTEREST AND IT IS UNIQUE. IT IS A TEMPORARY PARK BUT WILL BECOME A PROJECT OPERATED BY THE FACILITY AND BECAUSE IT IS UNIQUE, WE NEED TO GET THE OPERATOR RULES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO GET THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT WITH THE EXISTING POLICIES WHICH APPLY TO ALL CLERKS AND WE HAVE PROFIT ACTIVITIES AND HOWEVER, WHEN WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE WANT TO HAVE FOOD AND BY FOOD AND THE OPERATING GUIDELINES ALLOW FOR FOOD AND THE SALE OF ARTS AND CRAFTS AND ALLOWS FOR THE SALE OF TASK CALLED GOODS AND WE HAVE THAT MARKET DAY TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS ACTIVITIES ON THAT SITE, WE THINK IT IS PRUDENT TO ALSO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE PROPERTY LIKE SERVICES AND OIL CHANGES AND THAT SORT OF THING WHICH MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE. ALSO, WE HAVE FIXTURES ON THE FACILITY BUT THOSE THINGS WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES AND WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN AND ONLY OPERATE DURING REGULAR OPERATING HOURS AND AGAIN I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION JUST IN THE EFFORTS TO TRY TO FACILITATE ALL OF THE GOOD THAT WE CAN AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS ON THIS SITE, ACKNOWLEDGING HOWEVER THAT THERE WILL BE PARK GUIDELINES AND THAT WILL TAKE PLACE UPON THE OPENING AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD JUST ASK TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> I WANT TO COMPLEMENT STAFF TO DO A GREAT JOB OF IMPLEMENTING THAT AND THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. >>I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR TRANSFORMATION . THEIR RESPONSE AND HOPEFULLY, THEY WILL HOPE FOR A GOOD AND WHOLESOME CONSTRUCTIVE ACTIVITY THAT WILL BE FOSTERED AT THE SITE AND THAT THE VENUE WILL COME TO REPRESENT MULTIPLE POSITIVE HUMAN ENGAGEMENTS. I AM EXCITED FOR THAT TO OCCUR AND I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB. SO, THAT BEING SAID, RECOGNIZING THAT THE PARK WILL OFFICIALLY BE OPEN AND THERE WILL BE A RIBBON-CUTTING ON FRIDAY. IT WILL NOT JUST BE LEFT OUT BUT WE WILL ADOPT IT AND PUT IN THE CANOPY THAT IS APPLICABLE RECOGNIZING THAT IT WILL NOT BE A STANDALONE AND THEREFORE I WOULD OFFER OPTION ONE. >>OPTION ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED. SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. >>I.. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE REACHED THE END. DO WE HAVE ANY NON-AGENDA SPEAKERS? >> MELISSA VALOR. COMMISSIONER MADDOX NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? >>THERE SHE IS. >> I’M SORRY. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> PHILIP HAS LEFT THE BUILDING SO I WAS GOING TO SPEAK BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOMEONE IN THE HALLWAY AND I CAN GRAB HER AS WELL. >> WHAT WE WANTED — >>FOR THE RECORD . >>YES, MELISSA VALOR WITH 169 SINCLAIR. I WANT TO BE CERTAIN WHAT THE CIVIL CITATIONS AND THAT WAS AN OPTION TO MOVE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND INCLUDE THE STAKEHOLDERS. ANOTHER THING THAT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WE HAD GIVEN IS THAT IT ALSO INCLUDED THE ABILITY TO NOT EXTEND FUNDS AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD DONE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICES AND ONE FOR FOR RESOURCES TO PROSECUTE. THAT IS ANOTHER MOTION OF ISSUES THAT WE WANTED TO PUT FORWARD AND THAT IS A WAY OF DEALING WITH THE CROSSOVER WITH CANNABIS BECAUSE I HAD A MEETING WITH THE CHAIRMAN TOMORROW WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THAT WE DO NEED TO REMOVE THE DRUG PARAPHERNALIA FROM THE STATUTE BECAUSE IT IS A CROSSOVER AND IT SAYS THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS MUST PURCHASE DEVICES FROM ANY LOCATION SO YOU CAN PURCHASE PRODUCTS FOR USING MEDICAL MARIJUANA FLOWER FROM TOBACCO SHOPS AND SINCE YOU ARE GRANTING THIS TIME, AS THE HOLISTIC CANNABIS COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO BE INCLUDED WITH THE COMMUNITY HUMAN SERVICE PARTNERSHIPS AS A LINE ITEM OR WITH THE GRANT FUNDING TO MOVE BACK INTO COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REINVEST BACK INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND THROUGH THE BASE PRACTICES, THE TEENAGE USE GOES DOWN AND THESE ARE EVIDENTIARY FACTS. AND THEY HAVE BEEN MOST IMPACTED BY THE PROHIBITION. I KNOW JOSEPHINE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SO IF THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT BEFORE 6 PM. >> SIR, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >>ADDRESS 2024 LONGVIEW DRIVE TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACILITY IN REGARDS TO MY PROPERTY WITH OTHER PROPERTIES BEING SUBJECTED TO DAMAGE. I HAVE FOUND MORE EVIDENCE AFTER MAY, THAT WAS THE LAST STUDIES AND CONCLUSIONS AND IT IS GROWING UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE. I DON’T THINK IT IS A SINKHOLE BUT I KNOW IT IS DUE TO THE EXCESS WATER AFTER THE RAINS THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM AND AFTER THE FACT OF THE OPENING. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN INSURANCE COVERAGE. IT GOT DENIED AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVISIT AND REDEEM THE STARTING OPTIONS BECAUSE SELLING THE HOUSE TO SOMEBODY WHO WILL COME AND FACE THE SAME PROBLEM I DON’T THINK IS GOOD IN MY OPINION. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO BRING OUT. >>JOSEPHINE PENELOPE. >>HELLO AND THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOSEPHINE AND I’M A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER SINCE FOREVER 30 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN IN HOSPICE MEDICAL SOCIAL WORK. EVERYONE THAT CONSUMED CANNABIS IS TO BE A CRIMINAL UNDER FLORIDA LAW AND THAT MEANS AND THEY HAVE PREVIOUS CANNABIS POSITION CHARGES. AND THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO USE CANNABIS AS CREDIBLE’S SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND THEY CAN USE CANNABIS TO MANAGE SYMPTOMS AND TREAT DISEASES. CANNABIS LAWS ARE CHANGING MORE RAPIDLY THAN ANY OTHERS. SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT IN LAW OCCURS WHEN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SUCH AS POLICE OFFICERS OR REGULATORS EXERCISE ENFORCEMENT DISCRETION WHICH IS THE POWER TO CHOOSE OR HAVE TO PUNISH A PERSON THAT HAS VIOLATED THE LAW. WHAT HAPPENS WITH SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT? SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE ME IS VERY LIKELY NOT TO GET ARRESTED FOR MINOR CANNABIS POSSESSION CHARGE BUT NOT EVERYONE LOOKS LIKE ME. CANNABIS LAWS WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE WITH RESPONSIBLE ADULT USE THAT IS IS AN INEVITABILITY. ARE WE REALLY GOING TO CONTINUE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PEOPLE’S LIFE FOR POSSESSION THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO EASE SUFFERING OF GREAT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE? 4000 NEW MEDICAL ID CARDS ARE APPROVED EACH AND EVERY WEEK IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND WE HAVE SET UP A SYSTEM WHERE QUITE LITERALLY ONE PERSON IS A CRIMINAL AND THE VERY NEXT DAY, THEY ARE NOT. FOR PARTICIPATING IN EXACTLY THE SAME BEHAVIOR FOR USING EXACTLY THE SAME SUBSTANCE. CANNABIS USERS ARE CRIMINALS BECAUSE OF ARCHAIC PROHIBITIONISTS AND SOCIETIES AND LAWS CHANGE. THANK GOODNESS THEY DO. OTHERWISE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION WITH A SKIN COLOR DIFFERENT THAN MINE WOULD OTHERWISE NOT BE SEATED IN THIS GALLERY AND HOLD THE ESTEEMED PHYSICIAN OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER. WELL DURING THE MIDST OF THIS MASSIVE SOCIETAL SHIFTS, IT IS OUR GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO REPRESENT. REPLACING UNDUE BURDENS ON OUR CITIZENS AND SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL . ALL CITIZENS DESERVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY AND ANYTHING ELSE IS A DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICE. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT NO DOLLARS BE BUDGETED TOWARDS ARRESTING OUR CITIZENS FOR USING THE PLANT THAT HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF ALL HISTORY. >>THANK YOU, MA’AM. THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER. WE HAVE A BREAK AND WE WILL RESUME AT 6:00. THIS WILL BE AFTER WHERE THEY CAN SHARE COMMENTS. >> AS IF A TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT WAS NOT BAD ENOUGH, ONE ON EARTH WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE HOSPITAL? THERE ARE MILLIONS AND IT IS A CITY AND THEY MAKE MORE THAN $1 MILLION A YEAR. THE HOSPITAL RECEIVED TWO SUCCESSIVE RATINGS AS FAR AS PATIENT SAFETY IS CONCERNED. THINK ABOUT THAT. TWO SUCCESSIVE D RATINGS AND AS YOU CHECK INTO THE HOSPITAL WITH A D RATING, YOU HAVE A HIGHER RISK OF DYING COMPARED TO A HOSPITAL WITH A MEAN RATING FOR PATIENT SAFETY WITH THE HOSPITAL SUCH AS THE MAYO CLINIC. MAYBE SOME JUST DON’T CARE ABOUT THE MEDICAL ISSUES THAT STILL EXIST IN THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, SOME PEOPLE DON’T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE. AND NEVER WENT AWAY BUT Y’ALL DON’T TALK ABOUT IT. MATERNAL MORTALITY. WHITE WOMEN WHO DIE AND TWO BLACK WOMEN DIED. DEMOCRATS DON’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU DON’T DISCUSS IT. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THEY DON’T HAVE A SINGLE BLACK MEMBER ON THEIR BOARD. NOT ONE BLACK MEMBER WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THEY HAVE SEVERAL WHITE WOMEN BUT NOT ONE BLACK WOMAN. RECENTLY, THEY CAME OFF THE BOARD AND WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY TURN AROUND AND PUT THE MAN’S WIFE ON THE BOARD AND THEN THEY PUT BRADSHAW WHO OPPOSES AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, THEY PUT HIM ON THE BOARD. NO BLACK WOMEN ARE ON THE BOARD . >>THANK YOU. >> IT IS THE SAME HOSPITAL — >>THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >>YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. >>THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME , WE WILL ADJOURN OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING. THE MEETING NOW STANDS ADJOURN.

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